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- Speed: the two feed-forward GEMMs are only 18% to 30% of the fp16 time, and
FP8 shortens them by 15% to 26%, a saving of 4% to 7% of the call. The largest
kernel is the fp32 sequence-axis DFT, which FP8 does not touch.
- Quality: FNet mixes every token and hidden unit in every layer with a fixed
Fourier transform and no attention normalization, so the per-projection FP8
error spreads and builds up over 12 / 24 layers. For comparison, electra base
FP8 has task KL 0.0008.
- The variant that helps quality (`output.dense` left fp16) halves the KL but
removes the speed gain (0.92x to 0.98x of fp16).
- The quality bar of issue #1724 (CLS relative L2 <= 0.04 on the first 400
STS-B sentences) fails: base FP8 0 / 400 at 256 and 512 (fp16 400 / 400),
large FP8 379 / 400 at 512 and 48 / 400 at 256 (B200).
### Recipe that was measured
No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of FNet exists on the Hub (only the google fp32
checkpoints and community fine-tunes), and no official quantization config
exists for it. Each quantized projection is built as
`activation -> Quantize -> Dequantize(fp16) -> MatMul -> + bias`, with the
weight `FP8 constant -> Dequantize(fp16)`.
| Choice | Decision |
|---|---|
| Quantized | per layer `intermediate.dense` and `output.dense`, the only projections in an FNet layer: 24 (base) / 48 (large) FP8 GEMMs |
| fp16 / fp32 | embeddings, embedding projection, the Fourier transform (fixed cosine / sine matrices), layer norms, GELU |
| Weight scale | per tensor, amax / 448 of the fp32 weights, at build time |
| Activation scale | static, per tensor; ModelOpt 0.46.1 `FP8_DEFAULT_CFG` (max calibration), keyed by model config and two weight sums |
| Calibration data | 544 WikiText-2 train passages (16 to 510 tokens), framed `[CLS] ... [SEP]` and padded to the window (512 and 256) as the runtime pads |
| Outlier rule | a scale above 20x the median of its kind stays fp16; measured: no outlier (largest ratio 7.4x base, 4.1x large) |
| Dequantize type | fp16; no non-finite value, fp32 Dequantize was not needed |
At 512 tokens FP8 was measured on top of the 1/64 scaling probe of "Known
issue" (`fp16+hs` below), because fp16 at 512 returns NaN; at 128 and 256 FP8 is
built on the unchanged graph.
### Method
- GPUs: B200 and B300, one GPU per job; TensorRT 11.4.0.106 (target) and
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Correct the batch-8 speedup.
The listed B200 latencies give 6.840 / 6.177 = 1.11x, not 1.08x. Correct the ratio or the latency values, and update the 1.05x to 1.08x range in the summary and conclusion.
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Update the batch-8 speedup in the FNet benchmark table to match the listed B200
latency values, and revise the corresponding 1.05x to 1.08x range in the summary
and conclusion to reflect the corrected result.
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TensorRT 11.1 (B200, base): 0.751 ms fp16, 0.714 ms FP8 (1.05x) at 512; 0.501
and 0.468 ms (1.07x) at 256. Plan size (B200, 512): base fp32 321.1, fp16 161.9,
FP8 108.0 MiB; large 911.0, 457.2, 265.4 MiB.
Quality, B200, TensorRT 11.4 (B300 is in the same class: base 512 FP8 KL 0.0097,
For a supported checkpoint with fewer than 512 positions, the default window is shorter. A user who expects 512 tokens can submit an input that inference rejects.
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-`text_to_pooled_features`: batch 1, a fixed padded window (512 tokens when-`max_sequence_length` is not given, 256 in the manifests), output = the CLS row.+`text_to_pooled_features`: batch 1, a fixed padded window (the smaller of 512+and `max_position_embeddings` when `max_sequence_length` is not given, 256 in+the manifests), output = the CLS row.
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# FNet
This family builds FNet encoders (`google/fnet-base`, `google/fnet-large`) for
`text_to_pooled_features`: batch 1, a fixed padded window (512 tokens when
`max_sequence_length` is not given, 256 in the manifests), output = the CLS row.
Token mixing is the real part of a 2D DFT, built as fixed cosine / sine
matrices: the sequence axis in fp32, the hidden axis in the work precision. The
manifests use fp16 (TP1) and fp32 (TP4). The family has no quantized build.
## Known issue: fp16 NaN at the 512-token window
fp16 builds at the default 512-token window return NaN for nearly every real
input: 293 / 300 held-out WikiText-2 passages for fnet-base and 300 / 300 for
fnet-large (B200 and B300, TensorRT 11.4; fnet-base on TensorRT 11.1: 98 / 100).
The 2D Fourier output exceeds the fp16 range (largest value in the fp32
PyTorch model: 69,042 for base and 85,324 for large at 512, above 65,504): the
hidden-axis fp16 GEMM overflows to inf and the next layer norm turns it into
NaN. Windows of 256 and 128 have no NaN (large at 256: 55,233, 16% below the
limit), and the premerge case uses 256, so CI does not see it.
A probe that scales the input of the hidden-axis DFT by 1/64 and the fp32
result back by 64 removes the NaN at the same speed (fnet-base, 512, B200:
0.752 ms vs 0.756 ms) with masked-LM KL 5.9e-06 against PyTorch fp32. Running
the hidden-axis DFT in fp32 also works but is 1.41x to 1.47x slower. Neither is
applied here; this is a known issue.
## FP8 quantization study (not shipped)
FP8 self-quantization of the feed-forward projections was built and measured
on TensorRT 11.4 (and 11.1) for fnet-base and fnet-large. It is not shipped: FP8
is only 1.03x to 1.11x faster than fp16 at batch 1 and loses much more quality
than on attention encoders (masked-LM top-1 agreement with PyTorch 84% to 96%,
fp16: 99.6% to 99.9%). This section records the recipe, the method and the
numbers, so that the study does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code was not
merged; this family has no FP8 build.
### Summary and decision
| Item | fp16 | FP8 (fp16 engine) | FP8 vs fp16 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Latency, batch 1, B200 (base 128 to 512, large 256 and 512, TensorRT 11.4) | - | - | 1.03x to 1.11x |
| Latency, batch 8 x 512, B200 / B300 | - | - | 1.05x to 1.08x |
- Speed: the two feed-forward GEMMs are only 18% to 30% of the fp16 time, and
FP8 shortens them by 15% to 26%, a saving of 4% to 7% of the call. The largest
kernel is the fp32 sequence-axis DFT, which FP8 does not touch.
- Quality: FNet mixes every token and hidden unit in every layer with a fixed
Fourier transform and no attention normalization, so the per-projection FP8
error spreads and builds up over 12 / 24 layers. For comparison, electra base
FP8 has task KL 0.0008.
- The variant that helps quality (`output.dense` left fp16) halves the KL but
removes the speed gain (0.92x to 0.98x of fp16).
- The quality bar of issue #1724 (CLS relative L2 <= 0.04 on the first 400
STS-B sentences) fails: base FP8 0 / 400 at 256 and 512 (fp16 400 / 400),
large FP8 379 / 400 at 512 and 48 / 400 at 256 (B200).
### Recipe that was measured
No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of FNet exists on the Hub (only the google fp32
checkpoints and community fine-tunes), and no official quantization config
exists for it. Each quantized projection is built as
`activation -> Quantize -> Dequantize(fp16) -> MatMul -> + bias`, with the
weight `FP8 constant -> Dequantize(fp16)`.
| Choice | Decision |
|---|---|
| Quantized | per layer `intermediate.dense` and `output.dense`, the only projections in an FNet layer: 24 (base) / 48 (large) FP8 GEMMs |
| fp16 / fp32 | embeddings, embedding projection, the Fourier transform (fixed cosine / sine matrices), layer norms, GELU |
| Weight scale | per tensor, amax / 448 of the fp32 weights, at build time |
| Activation scale | static, per tensor; ModelOpt 0.46.1 `FP8_DEFAULT_CFG` (max calibration), keyed by model config and two weight sums |
| Calibration data | 544 WikiText-2 train passages (16 to 510 tokens), framed `[CLS] ... [SEP]` and padded to the window (512 and 256) as the runtime pads |
| Outlier rule | a scale above 20x the median of its kind stays fp16; measured: no outlier (largest ratio 7.4x base, 4.1x large) |
| Dequantize type | fp16; no non-finite value, fp32 Dequantize was not needed |
At 512 tokens FP8 was measured on top of the 1/64 scaling probe of "Known
issue" (`fp16+hs` below), because fp16 at 512 returns NaN; at 128 and 256 FP8 is
built on the unchanged graph.
### Method
- GPUs: B200 and B300, one GPU per job; TensorRT 11.4.0.106 (target) and
- Speed: the two feed-forward GEMMs are only 18% to 30% of the fp16 time, and
FP8 shortens them by 15% to 26%, a saving of 4% to 7% of the call. The largest
kernel is the fp32 sequence-axis DFT, which FP8 does not touch.
- Quality: FNet mixes every token and hidden unit in every layer with a fixed
Fourier transform and no attention normalization, so the per-projection FP8
error spreads and builds up over 12 / 24 layers. For comparison, electra base
FP8 has task KL 0.0008.
- The variant that helps quality (`output.dense` left fp16) halves the KL but
removes the speed gain (0.92x to 0.98x of fp16).
- The quality bar of issue #1724 (CLS relative L2 <= 0.04 on the first 400
STS-B sentences) fails: base FP8 0 / 400 at 256 and 512 (fp16 400 / 400),
large FP8 379 / 400 at 512 and 48 / 400 at 256 (B200).
### Recipe that was measured
No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of FNet exists on the Hub (only the google fp32
checkpoints and community fine-tunes), and no official quantization config
exists for it. Each quantized projection is built as
`activation -> Quantize -> Dequantize(fp16) -> MatMul -> + bias`, with the
weight `FP8 constant -> Dequantize(fp16)`.
| Choice | Decision |
|---|---|
| Quantized | per layer `intermediate.dense` and `output.dense`, the only projections in an FNet layer: 24 (base) / 48 (large) FP8 GEMMs |
| fp16 / fp32 | embeddings, embedding projection, the Fourier transform (fixed cosine / sine matrices), layer norms, GELU |
| Weight scale | per tensor, amax / 448 of the fp32 weights, at build time |
| Activation scale | static, per tensor; ModelOpt 0.46.1 `FP8_DEFAULT_CFG` (max calibration), keyed by model config and two weight sums |
| Calibration data | 544 WikiText-2 train passages (16 to 510 tokens), framed `[CLS] ... [SEP]` and padded to the window (512 and 256) as the runtime pads |
| Outlier rule | a scale above 20x the median of its kind stays fp16; measured: no outlier (largest ratio 7.4x base, 4.1x large) |
| Dequantize type | fp16; no non-finite value, fp32 Dequantize was not needed |
At 512 tokens FP8 was measured on top of the 1/64 scaling probe of "Known
issue" (`fp16+hs` below), because fp16 at 512 returns NaN; at 128 and 256 FP8 is
built on the unchanged graph.
### Method
- GPUs: B200 and B300, one GPU per job; TensorRT 11.4.0.106 (target) and
"Other GEMMs" in fp16 holds the hidden-axis DFT (0.136 ms at 512, the same in
both builds), the feed-forward GEMMs and the embedding projection. The fp16
feed-forward GEMMs are about 0.20 ms (512), 0.18 ms (256) and 0.49 ms (batch 8);
FP8 brings them to 0.17, 0.15 and 0.36 ms. The fp32 sequence-axis DFT (an FFMA
kernel, TF32 off) is 40% of the batch-1 time at 512 and 62% at batch 8.
### NVFP4 (not tried)
FNet at batch 1 is not bound by weight reads (the FP8 feed-forward weights, 57
MB base / 201 MB large, are read in about 0.01 to 0.03 ms of a 0.7 to 1.6 ms
call), and FP8 is already too lossy; 4-bit would lose more.
### What was not tried
| Item | Note |
|---|---|
| Per-channel weight scales, percentile or entropy calibration, SmoothQuant | not measured |
| FP8 for the hidden-axis DFT GEMM | not measured; cosine / sine values in [-1, 1] lose precision in e4m3 |
| H100, the native runtime with an FP8 bundle | not measured |
### When to revisit
- A faster sequence-axis DFT (TF32 or an FFT kernel): the feed-forward GEMMs
would then be a larger share of the time and the FP8 gain would grow.
- A recipe that keeps masked-LM top-1 agreement near the fp16 level (above 99%)
without leaving `output.dense` in fp16.
Batch 8 gave about the same ratio as batch 1 (1.05x to 1.08x), so larger batches
alone do not change the result.
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Review comment at @families/fnet/README.md around lines 1 - 182:
Update the opening description of the FNet `text_to_pooled_features` window to
state that its default is the smaller of 512 and the checkpoint’s
`max_position_embeddings`; retain the documented 256-token manifest setting.
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Correct the batch-8 speedup.
The listed B200 latencies give
6.840 / 6.177 = 1.11x, not1.08x. Correct the ratio or the latency values, and update the1.05x to 1.08xrange in the summary and conclusion.