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docs(magpie_tts): record why FP8 is not shipped - #2110
families/magpie_tts builds nvidia/magpie_tts_multilingual_357m (text encoder, autoregressive decoder with KV cache and cross-attention, NanoCodec) for audio_generation. The manifests build fp32, and the family has no quantized build. No ModelOpt FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint exists for MagpieTTS, so we built FP8 self-quantization of the encoder and decoder projections (build-time per-tensor FP8 weights, static activation scales from fp32 synthesis of 48 LibriSpeech validation sentences) and measured it on TensorRT 11.4 and 11.1, on B200 and B300.
FP8 does not pay for this family. FP8 needs an fp16 build. Against that fp16 build, FP8 is only 1.3% to 2.1% faster end to end (1.04x to 1.05x per decoder step with a CUDA graph). FP8 also changes 37% of the teacher-forced per-codebook argmax choices (fp16 changes 1.5%). The decoder step is latency bound at batch 1: about 294 kernels of about 3.5 us each, and weights are about 2% of the step time. The only clear gain is plan size (decoder 205 to 127 MiB). The speedup over the fp32 manifest comes from fp16 alone.
This change adds a README for the family that records the study, like the yolov10 (#2093), bart (#2004), timesfm (#2005) and marian (#2035) studies, so that it does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code is not part of this change. NVFP4 was also measured and is slower than fp16 at batch 1.
Exit Criteria
The README records the recipe, the method, speed (decoder step and full synthesis) and plan size on B200 and B300 (TensorRT 11.4 and 11.1), and quality against the fp32 engine (teacher-forced logits, whisper round-trip WER). It also records the kernel breakdown that explains the missing speedup, the subset and NVFP4 variants, two non-quantization findings, what was not tried, and when to revisit.
No code, test, manifest or bundle change; builds are unchanged.
Non-goals: shipping FP8 or NVFP4 builds, an FP8 manifest or CI case, and changing the runtime prefill or cross-attention.
Implementation
families/magpie_tts/README.md (new): a short family description and the section "FP8 quantization study (not shipped)". The section has: summary and decision, recipe, method, results (speed, plan size, quality, kernel time per group, variants), NVFP4, other findings, what was not tried, and when to revisit.
Recipe that was measured (code kept out of the repository):
FP8 for 126 projections: encoder q, k, v and decoder self-attention q, k, v, cross-attention q, k, v, o, and MLP fc1, fc2. The decoder self-attention output projection, the kernel-size-3 encoder feed-forward, embeddings, norms, the output head and NanoCodec stay fp16.
Weights: per-tensor scale max(abs(weight)) / 448 at build time. Activations: static per-tensor max(abs(input)) from fp32 synthesis of 48 LibriSpeech validation sentences. We measured both fp32 Dequantize (the first recipe) and fp16 Dequantize.
Why there is no gain: the step is latency bound. The FP8 GEMMs save 0.04 to 0.16 ms per step, but Quantize, Dequantize and cast kernels take most of it back. With fp32 Dequantize, cast and reformat time grows from 0.27 to 0.46 ms per step. The eager-enqueue gain with fp32 Dequantize depends on the GPU: 1.17x on B300 and 0.98x on B200.
Other findings, recorded in the README and not changed here: the runtime prefills the 110 context frames one step at a time (twice, for guidance) and does not use the decoder engine's batched prefill profile. In the study this was 55% to 75% of the time of a short or medium sentence. Also, the cross-attention K and V of the 2048 padded encoder rows are recomputed in every decoder step; computing them once per sentence makes the step 13% faster.
Markdown check of the README (table column counts, code fences)
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The numbers in the README come from the local study and are not re-run by this change. The table shows synthesis time per decoder step (greedy loop like the runtime, no CUDA graph); x is fp16 time over FP8 time:
GPU
TensorRT
fp32 ms
fp16 ms
FP8 fp16 Dequantize ms
x
FP8 fp32 Dequantize ms
x
decoder plan MiB fp16 to FP8
B200
11.4
3.305
2.389
2.339
1.02
2.427
0.98
205.1 to 127.3
B300
11.4
3.415
2.453
2.412
1.02
2.227
1.10
205.2 to 127.5
B200
11.1
3.302
2.388
2.340
1.02
2.432
0.98
205.2 to 127.4
B300
11.1
3.388
2.450
2.418
1.01
2.215
1.11
205.3 to 127.5
Quality against the fp32 engine (teacher forced, 8 held-out LibriSpeech sentences, about 620 frames, TensorRT 11.4, B200): fp16 argmax agreement 0.985, logit relative error 0.0017; FP8 0.626 to 0.636 and 0.096 to 0.098. No non-finite logit. Whisper round-trip WER on 60 LibriSpeech test sentences (TensorRT 11.1, B300): fp32 0.0205, fp16 0.0141, FP8 0.0151.
Hardware, Environment, and Revisions
Repository: this commit on top of upstream/main at 5801406c.
Checkpoint: nvidia/magpie_tts_multilingual_357m at 34d7e40da85cabc97f92198889b65cea27bc7fd1 (manifest revision).
Study: B200 and B300, one GPU per job, all engines built and timed in the same job; TensorRT 11.4.0.106 (target) and 11.1.0.106, torch 2.14.0 (CUDA 13). ASR: openai/whisper-large-v3-turbo.
Not Run / Remaining Gaps
No code was run for this change. The study cannot be rerun from this repository, because the FP8 code was not merged.
Not measured: the native C++ runtime with an FP8 bundle (a Python loop that mirrors the runtime was timed), whisper WER on TensorRT 11.4 (teacher-forced metrics on 11.4 match 11.1 within 0.01), H100, FP8 self-attention output projection, FP8 output head, FP8 KV cache, batch above 1 (the engine has no batch dimension).
With FP8 only, batched and sequential prefill disagree (KV relative error 3.8%, fp16 0.06%). This was not reduced to a TensorRT repro.
Contributor Self-Review
I have completed a self-review of this change.
Notes For Future Readers
Suggested review order: "Summary and decision", the kernel time table, "Other findings", "When to revisit".
Revisit FP8 when the runtime batches several requests in one decoder step, or when a TensorRT release fuses the activation Quantize and the output cast into the FP8 GEMM at M = 1.
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Risk rationale: documentation only; one README added, no code, build, bundle or test change.
Add a README for the magpie_tts family with the FP8 self-quantization
study of magpie_tts_multilingual_357m on TensorRT 11.4 (B200, B300) and
11.1: recipe (per-tensor FP8 weights and static activation scales on 126
encoder and decoder projections), measurement method, decoder step and
synthesis speed, plan size, and quality against the fp32 engine. FP8
needs an fp16 build and is only 1.3% to 2.1% faster than that fp16
build end to end. It changes 37% of the teacher-forced codebook argmax
choices (fp16: 1.5%). The whisper round-trip WER stays at the fp16 and
fp32 level. The decoder step is latency bound at batch 1, and Quantize,
Dequantize and cast kernels take back most of the FP8 GEMM gain. Only
the plan size gains (decoder 205 to 127 MiB). FP8 is not shipped. NVFP4
is slower than fp16 at batch 1.
The README also records two non-quantization findings: the runtime does
not use the batched prefill profile, and the cross-attention K and V are
recomputed in every decoder step.
Documentation only; no code change.
Signed-off-by: Zhenshan Xie <zhenshanx@nvidia.com>
Adds families/magpie_tts/README.md to document an unshipped FP8 and NVFP4 quantization study for nvidia/magpie_tts_multilingual_357m.
The README records the measured recipes, methods, latency, plan sizes, and quality metrics. It reports that FP8 with fp16 dequantization was about 1.3%–2.1% faster end to end than fp16, while changing 37% of teacher-forced per-codebook argmax choices. It also reports that NVFP4 was slower than fp16 at batch 1. The README states that neither quantization method is shipped and lists limitations and conditions for revisiting FP8.
Architecture impact
Outcome: PASS. The change adds documentation in the MagpieTTS family. The inspected diff shows no shared implementation or other-family changes. This outcome applies only to the reviewed evidence; it does not prove correctness.
Family-owned files:families/magpie_tts/README.md is the only changed file.
Changed shared surfaces: None identified.
New dependency directions: None identified.
Affected consumers: No implementation or runtime consumers are changed. The README documents the MagpieTTS engines and study results.
Unresolved blast-radius questions: None identified from the documentation-only diff. The study was not rerun for this change, and the README lists unmeasured scenarios, including native C++ runtime use with an FP8 bundle.
Review finding severity counts: Not available.
CI, build, and test results on the current head: Not available.
The README describes the MagpieTTS decoding flow and documents an FP8 and NVFP4 quantization study. It records recipes, measured performance and quality, runtime findings, unmeasured configurations, and conditions for revisiting quantization.
Changes: MagpieTTS Quantization Study
Layer / File(s)
Summary
Study scope and findings families/magpie_tts/README.md
Describes the MagpieTTS components and summarizes FP8 measurements and the decision not to ship FP8.
Recipes and measurements families/magpie_tts/README.md
Records the measured FP8 recipe, evaluation methods, performance and quality results, and NVFP4 measurements.
Runtime findings and study limits families/magpie_tts/README.md
Documents prefill and cross-attention observations, unmeasured configurations, and conditions for revisiting the study.
This change only adds documentation. Its headline FP8 speedup range is stated more broadly than the measurements support: it does not name the recipe, and it describes a per-step result as end to end. Correcting those two statements before merge keeps readers from misreading the FP8 decision. No code or runtime behavior changes.
Architecture risk: Low · up to 0f912
The change affects 1 system.
Changed systems:families
Architecture concerns
No architecture-level concerns identified.
Review details
Systems and components
observed — families (service) was modified; 1 changed file maps to changed impact.
Before / after behavior
observed — Modified behavior in families/magpie_tts/README.md: Adds an overview of the MagpieTTS encoder, autoregressive decoder, NanoCodec, runtime decoding flow, and supported precisions, followed by the statement that no quantized build is shipped. Introduces the FP8 study and documents that FP8 is not shipped, requires an fp16 build, yields limited measured speedups over fp16, changes codebook choices, and reduces decoder plan size.
observed — Modified behavior in families/magpie_tts/README.md: Adds the FP8 decision summary, including synthesis and decoder-step comparisons, plan sizes, quality measurements, and non-finite-logit counts. It records the study’s conclusion not to ship FP8 and summarizes observed latency, GPU-dependent results, and codebook agreement.
observed — Modified behavior in families/magpie_tts/README.md: Documents the measured FP8 recipe: selected encoder and decoder projections use FP8; specified projections and other components remain fp16. It also records the weight and activation scale rules, dequantization types, and build precision.
observed — Modified behavior in families/magpie_tts/README.md: Documents the GPUs, TensorRT versions, timing procedures, synthesis inputs and decoding setup, quality and WER evaluation sets, and non-finite scan.
Pre-merge checks: 8 · 1
Failed checks: 1 warning
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Benchmark Validation Integrity
The new report presents per-step speedups as end-to-end speedups. families/magpie_tts/README.md:14-17 claims FP8 is 1.3%–2.1% faster end to end. Lines 85-88 state that synthesis time is divided by d…
Describe the reported gain as a per-step synthesis gain, or provide end-to-end times for the same sentences without dividing by decoder steps. Report the different frame counts with the comparison.
Passed checks: 8 passed
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Title check
The title clearly identifies the MagpieTTS FP8 study and its decision not to ship FP8. It is concise and specific.
Description check
The description follows the repository template and covers the background, exit criteria, implementation, change category, validation, environment, remaining gaps, self-review, and future-reader notes…
Docstring Coverage
No eligible functions found in the changed files. Skipping docstring coverage check. Docstring coverage is scoped to functions touched by this diff with cyclomatic complexity of at least 2. Documentat…
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Check skipped because no linked issues were found for this pull request.
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Check skipped because no linked issues were found for this pull request.
Family Ownership Boundary
The PR adds only families/magpie_tts/README.md. It documents a past study and does not introduce a dependency on another family or require changes to another family or a central registry.
Shared Semantic Neutrality
The PR adds only families/magpie_tts/README.md. It does not change shared code.
Shared Change Blast Radius
The PR adds only families/magpie_tts/README.md. It does not change a shared surface. The check does not apply.
Full details: Description check
Explanation
The description follows the repository template and covers the background, exit criteria, implementation, change category, validation, environment, remaining gaps, self-review, and future-reader notes. The documentation-only scope and unrerun study results are stated clearly.
Full details: Docstring Coverage
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Explanation
The new report presents per-step speedups as end-to-end speedups. families/magpie_tts/README.md:14-17 claims FP8 is 1.3%–2.1% faster end to end. Lines 85-88 state that synthesis time is divided by decoder steps, and that the engines stop at different frame counts. Lines 103-108 report the resulting per-step values. These values do not establish latency per completed sentence.
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- Line 16: Update the benchmark comparison sentence in the README to explicitly
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Preserve the distinction that fp32 Dequantize is faster on B300 but slower on
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Limit the 1.3%–2.1% claim to fp16 Dequantize.
The fp32 Dequantize recipe is faster on B300 but slower on B200. Name the recipe in the headline so the range does not describe both.
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FP8 self-quantization of the encoder and decoder projections was built and
measured on TensorRT 11.4 (and 11.1) on B200 and B300. It is not shipped. FP8
-needs an fp16 build, and against that fp16 build it is only 1.3% to 2.1%-faster end to end. The speedup over the fp32 manifest comes from fp16, not+needs an fp16 build. With fp16 Dequantize, it is only 1.3% to 2.1%+faster end to end than that fp16 build. The speedup over the fp32 manifest comes from fp16, not
from FP8. FP8 also changes 37% of the per-codebook argmax choices (fp16
changes 1.5%). The decoder plan is 38% smaller. This section records the
recipe, the method and the numbers, so that the study does not have to be
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Update the benchmark comparison sentence in the README to explicitly limit the
1.3%–2.1% speedup claim to fp16 Dequantize, not Dequantize generally. Preserve
the distinction that fp32 Dequantize is faster on B300 but slower on B200.
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Report the speedup as a per-step result.
The reported synthesis times are normalized by decoder steps. The engines stop at different frame counts, so this result does not establish the end-to-end speedup per sentence.
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Update the speedup claim in the README so it is explicitly reported as a
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distinction that the engines stop at different frame counts.
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Background
families/magpie_ttsbuildsnvidia/magpie_tts_multilingual_357m(text encoder, autoregressive decoder with KV cache and cross-attention, NanoCodec) foraudio_generation. The manifests build fp32, and the family has no quantized build. No ModelOpt FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint exists for MagpieTTS, so we built FP8 self-quantization of the encoder and decoder projections (build-time per-tensor FP8 weights, static activation scales from fp32 synthesis of 48 LibriSpeech validation sentences) and measured it on TensorRT 11.4 and 11.1, on B200 and B300.FP8 does not pay for this family. FP8 needs an fp16 build. Against that fp16 build, FP8 is only 1.3% to 2.1% faster end to end (1.04x to 1.05x per decoder step with a CUDA graph). FP8 also changes 37% of the teacher-forced per-codebook argmax choices (fp16 changes 1.5%). The decoder step is latency bound at batch 1: about 294 kernels of about 3.5 us each, and weights are about 2% of the step time. The only clear gain is plan size (decoder 205 to 127 MiB). The speedup over the fp32 manifest comes from fp16 alone.
This change adds a README for the family that records the study, like the yolov10 (#2093), bart (#2004), timesfm (#2005) and marian (#2035) studies, so that it does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code is not part of this change. NVFP4 was also measured and is slower than fp16 at batch 1.
Exit Criteria
Implementation
families/magpie_tts/README.md(new): a short family description and the section "FP8 quantization study (not shipped)". The section has: summary and decision, recipe, method, results (speed, plan size, quality, kernel time per group, variants), NVFP4, other findings, what was not tried, and when to revisit.Recipe that was measured (code kept out of the repository):
Why there is no gain: the step is latency bound. The FP8 GEMMs save 0.04 to 0.16 ms per step, but Quantize, Dequantize and cast kernels take most of it back. With fp32 Dequantize, cast and reformat time grows from 0.27 to 0.46 ms per step. The eager-enqueue gain with fp32 Dequantize depends on the GPU: 1.17x on B300 and 0.98x on B200.
Other findings, recorded in the README and not changed here: the runtime prefills the 110 context frames one step at a time (twice, for guidance) and does not use the decoder engine's batched prefill profile. In the study this was 55% to 75% of the time of a short or medium sentence. Also, the cross-attention K and V of the 2048 padded encoder rows are recomputed in every decoder step; computing them once per sentence makes the step 13% faster.
Change categories
Validation
Commands and Results
Documentation only.
python3 -m tools.model_ci validatepytest tools/tests/test_architecture.py tools/tests/test_public_source_hygiene.py(CPU)git diff --checkpython3 tools/pr_metadata.py validateon this descriptionThe numbers in the README come from the local study and are not re-run by this change. The table shows synthesis time per decoder step (greedy loop like the runtime, no CUDA graph); x is fp16 time over FP8 time:
Quality against the fp32 engine (teacher forced, 8 held-out LibriSpeech sentences, about 620 frames, TensorRT 11.4, B200): fp16 argmax agreement 0.985, logit relative error 0.0017; FP8 0.626 to 0.636 and 0.096 to 0.098. No non-finite logit. Whisper round-trip WER on 60 LibriSpeech test sentences (TensorRT 11.1, B300): fp32 0.0205, fp16 0.0141, FP8 0.0151.
Hardware, Environment, and Revisions
upstream/mainat5801406c.nvidia/magpie_tts_multilingual_357mat34d7e40da85cabc97f92198889b65cea27bc7fd1(manifest revision).openslr/librispeech_asrtest-clean/test-othersentences (held out).openai/whisper-large-v3-turbo.Not Run / Remaining Gaps
Contributor Self-Review
Notes For Future Readers
Risk level
Risk rationale: documentation only; one README added, no code, build, bundle or test change.
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