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Expand Up @@ -179,6 +179,146 @@ against the eager LeRobot policy (TensorRT 11.4):
| `nvidia/gr00t17-lerobot-libero_10-640` @ `5ee08ab09fac5c5ef2388a14c882ea825ac861db` | 3.2e-6 / 1.2e-6 / 6.0e-6 |
| `nvidia/gr00t17-lerobot-libero_goal-640` @ `436c57c0eb7a90be54270abf3977668b2084ad75` | 3.3e-6 / 1.7e-6 / 2.3e-6 |

## FP8 quantization study (not shipped)

FP8 self-quantization of the flow-matching DiT was built and measured on TensorRT 11.4
(B200, B300) and 11.1 (B200) on top of the bf16 vision tower. It is not shipped: one
policy step is only 1.06x faster than the bf16 bundle, the mean action error grows to
1.8x that of the bf16 bundle, and one of the three committed bf16 test observations fails
its thresholds. This section records the recipe, the method and the numbers, so that the
study does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code was not merged; this family has no
quantized build.

### Summary and decision

Policy step = the condition engine once and the denoise engine four times (GPU time,
TensorRT 11.4; 200 held-out LIBERO-spatial observations):

| Item | bf16 bundle | FP8 bundle | FP8 vs bf16 |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| Policy step, B200 / B300 | 12.15 / 11.00 ms | 11.49 / 10.29 ms | 1.06x / 1.06x to 1.07x |
| Four denoising steps, B200 / B300 | 6.25 / 5.70 ms | 5.62 / 5.05 ms | 1.11x to 1.12x / 1.11x to 1.13x |
| Condition engine, B200 / B300 | 5.90 / 5.29 ms | 5.87 / 5.24 ms | unchanged |
| Bundle | 5.82 GB | 4.89 GB | -16% |
| Held-out mean arm error vs LeRobot fp32 | 8.5e-4 | 1.5e-3 | 1.78x |
| Committed bf16 E2E thresholds | 3 of 3 pass | 2 of 3 pass | `ep1267_f080` fails |

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Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win

Limit the pass claim to the measured action comparisons.

The E2E test also checks native wall-time p95 and an alternate instruction. (raw.githubusercontent.com) The study did not measure the FP8 native runtime, so it cannot establish full E2E passes. Label this row as the listed action-comparison thresholds.

As per coding guidelines, “Aggregation and gate behavior preserve the intended level of evidence.”

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Review comment at @families/lerobot_groot/README.md at line 204:
Update the “Committed bf16 E2E thresholds” row to limit its pass counts to the
listed action-comparison thresholds, not full E2E tests. Preserve the reported
counts and failure identifier, and clarify in the row label that native
wall-time and alternate-instruction checks are not included.

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Source: Coding guidelines

| Non-finite outputs | 0 | 0 | none |

Decision: do not ship FP8 for GR00T.

- Speed: FP8 saves 0.6 to 0.7 ms of a 11 to 12 ms step. Only the DiT is quantized, and
the DiT is half of the step; the other half, the condition engine (vision tower,
backbone, VL blocks), stays bf16.
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Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win

Correct the condition-engine precision summary.

Line 227 says the condition engine contains an FP8 GEMM for the cross-attention key/value projections. State that the other condition components remain bf16; the entire condition engine does not.

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Review comment at @families/lerobot_groot/README.md around lines 210 - 211:
Update the precision summary for the DiT and condition engine to clarify that
cross-attention key/value projections use an FP8 GEMM while the other condition
components remain bf16; do not describe the entire condition engine as bf16.

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- The DiT runs on 41 tokens, so its GEMMs are small and FP8 makes one denoising step only
1.11x to 1.13x faster.
- Quality: the mean arm error is 1.78x that of the bf16 bundle and 1.6x LeRobot's own
bfloat16-versus-float32 difference. An FP8 build would need its own, looser E2E
thresholds.
- Plan size: the denoise plan is 41% smaller, but the bundle only 16%.

### Recipe that was measured

No FP8 or NVFP4 GR00T checkpoint exists on the Hub (`nvidia/GR00T-N1.7-3B` and the
LeRobot fine-tunes are bf16 or fp32 only), and no official GR00T quantization config
exists.
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Update the claim about official quantization configurations.

NVIDIA's Isaac-GR00T repository now defines fp8 and mixed_nvfp4 component policies and documents a Thor deployment recipe. (raw.githubusercontent.com) Distinguish those policies from support in this LeRobot builder.

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Review comment at @families/lerobot_groot/README.md around lines 222 - 223:
Update the quantization statement in the GR00T README to acknowledge NVIDIA
Isaac-GR00T’s fp8 and mixed_nvfp4 component policies and Thor deployment recipe,
while clearly distinguishing those upstream options from quantization support in
the LeRobot builder; retain only claims about builder support that are verified
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| Choice | Decision |
| --- | --- |
| Quantized (192 projections) | `attn1.to_q/k/v`, `attn1.to_out.0`, `ff.net.0.proj`, `ff.net.2` of all 32 DiT blocks; in the plans: 128 FP8 GEMMs in the denoise engine and 1 in the condition engine (the 32 cross-attention key/value projections, merged by TensorRT) |
| bf16 | vision tower, the 16 backbone layers, the 4 VL self-attention blocks, attention matmuls, AdaLN modulation, timestep embedders, DiT output projections, embodiment-specific encoders and decoder |
| Weight scale | per tensor, amax / 448, from the checkpoint at build time |
| Activation scale | static, per tensor; ModelOpt 0.46.1 `FP8_DEFAULT_CFG` (max calibration) through LeRobot's float32 policy, all four denoising steps, 128 LIBERO-spatial observations (32 episodes x 4 frames) |
| Outlier rule | a scale above 20x the median of its kind stays bf16; measured: none in the DiT (largest ratio 3.99, `ff.net.2`) |
| Dequantize type | bf16 (the build precision) |
| Build | `precision=bf16` only; fp32 with FP8 and already quantized checkpoints refused |

### Method

- Checkpoint `nvidia/gr00t17-lerobot-libero_spatial-640` at the manifest revision; plans
from `model.build` (bf16, builder optimization level 3).
- A Python harness runs the two plans as the runtime does (prompt, image patches, state
normalization, masks, four Euler steps, unnormalization, LIBERO gripper).
- Speed: GPU time of one policy step (CUDA events, inputs on the device), median of 20
interleaved rounds of 10 steps (15 on 11.1). On 11.4 each variant was built twice and
all four plans were timed in the same job, one job per GPU type.
- Quality: 200 held-out LIBERO-spatial observations (50 episodes x 4 frames, none used
for calibration or by the tests) and the 3 committed test observations, fixed noise per
observation, 16 x 7 actions in robot units. Arm = the 6 continuous dimensions, gripper =
the binary LIBERO command (flip = sign change). Reference: LeRobot `lerobot[groot]==0.6.1`
in float32.
- Non-finite scan: every condition output and every denoise output of all four steps on
the 203 observations, every build.

### Results

Speed and size (x is bf16 time over FP8 time; two builds of each variant on 11.4):

| GPU | TensorRT | bf16 step | FP8 step | x step | bf16 / FP8 denoise x4 | x denoise | denoise plan bf16 to FP8 |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| B200 | 11.4 | 12.15 / 12.17 ms | 11.49 / 11.47 ms | 1.06 | 6.25-6.28 / 5.61-5.62 ms | 1.11 to 1.12 | 2004 to 1178 MB |
| B300 | 11.4 | 11.00 / 10.94 ms | 10.29 / 10.35 ms | 1.06 to 1.07 | 5.67-5.70 / 5.05-5.09 ms | 1.11 to 1.13 | 2004 to 1178 MB |
| B200 | 11.1 | 11.81 ms | 11.12 ms | 1.06 | 5.97 / 5.29 ms | 1.13 | 2004 to 1179 MB |

The condition plan goes from 3809 to 3708 MB, the bundle from 5.82 to 4.89 GB. Build time
is 148 to 248 s for bf16 and 252 to 337 s for FP8.

Quality on the 200 held-out observations (B200 and B300 give the same numbers on 11.4):

| Engine | Arm mean abs vs LeRobot fp32 | Ratio to bf16 bundle | p99 | Median per-observation max | Gripper flips | Arm mean abs vs bf16 bundle |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| bf16 bundle, 11.4 | 8.46e-4 | 1.00 | 5.77e-3 | 4.03e-3 | 0.031% | |
| FP8 bundle, 11.4 | 1.50e-3 | 1.78 | 8.53e-3 | 7.82e-3 | 0.031% | 1.27e-3 |
| bf16 bundle, 11.1 | 8.39e-4 | 1.00 | 5.59e-3 | 4.04e-3 | 0.094% | |
| FP8 bundle, 11.1 | 1.46e-3 | 1.74 | 8.33e-3 | 7.27e-3 | 0.031% | 1.41e-3 |
| LeRobot bf16 policy | 9.27e-4 | 1.10 | 6.79e-3 | 4.06e-3 | 0.031% | |

The committed test observations against the bf16 E2E thresholds (TensorRT 11.4; max abs /
mean abs vs LeRobot fp32, max abs vs LeRobot bf16; cosine is at least 0.99998 everywhere):

| Observation | Threshold | bf16 bundle | FP8 bundle |
| --- | --- | --- | --- |
| `ep1262_f040` | 1.26e-2 / 1.8e-3 / 1.9e-2 | 3.64e-3 / 7.08e-4 / 6.41e-3 | 9.94e-3 / 1.49e-3 / 9.16e-3 |
| `ep1267_f080` | 5.1e-3 / 9.4e-4 / 7.7e-3 | 3.27e-3 / 5.83e-4 / 5.49e-3 | 8.16e-3 / 1.22e-3 / 9.16e-3 (fails all three) |
| `ep1272_f000` | 3.0e-2 / 2.6e-3 / 4.5e-2 | 7.38e-3 / 8.07e-4 / 8.07e-3 | 7.12e-3 / 1.10e-3 / 1.44e-2 |

TensorRT 11.1 gives the same picture (`ep1267_f080` FP8: 7.24e-3 / 1.03e-3 / 8.24e-3).

Other recipes, measured earlier with the vision tower in float32 (TensorRT 11.4; B200 /
B300; the bf16 step was then 19.2 / 17.8 ms):

| Variant | x step | x denoise x4 | Bundle | Arm mean abs vs LeRobot fp32 |
| --- | --- | --- | --- | --- |
| DiT, all 6 projections (the recipe above) | 1.03 to 1.04 / 1.03 to 1.04 | 1.11 to 1.13 / 1.10 to 1.12 | 5.55 GB | 1.37e-3 / 1.38e-3 |
| DiT without `to_out.0` | 1.03 / 1.03 | 1.10 / 1.10 | 5.63 GB | 1.26e-3 / 1.29e-3 |
| Backbone only (16 layers) | 1.01 (B200) | 1.01 | 5.69 GB | 2.36e-3 |
| Backbone MLP + DiT | 1.04 / 1.05 | 1.08 / 1.10 | 4.85 GB | 2.32e-3 / 2.49e-3 |
| Backbone, VL blocks and DiT | 1.05 / 1.06 | 1.11 to 1.12 / 1.12 | 4.56 GB | 2.93e-3 / 3.05e-3 |

FP8 of the backbone and the VL blocks adds 1% to 2% for twice the action error.

### NVFP4

A harness prototype with the DiT feed-forward projections in NVFP4 (per-16 block scales,
dynamic activation quantize; q/k/v in FP8), measured with the float32 vision tower on
TensorRT 11.4, is slower than bf16: 0.97x (B200) and 0.98x (B300) per step, 0.92x and
0.95x per denoise call, with a mean arm error of 2.75e-3. At 41 tokens the dynamic block
quantize costs more than the 4-bit weight reads save.

### What was not tried

| Item | Note |
| --- | --- |
| FP8 of the bf16 vision tower | not measured |
| FP8 attention matmuls, percentile or entropy calibration | not measured |
| Closed-loop LIBERO success rate, the native runtime with an FP8 bundle, H100 | not measured |

### When to revisit

- A deployment with more denoising steps per call: the DiT share of the step, and so the
FP8 gain, grows with the step count.
- A quality target that accepts a mean arm error of about 1.5e-3 (1.6x LeRobot's own
bfloat16 noise), with FP8-specific E2E thresholds.

## Known limits

- Qualified on one NVIDIA RTX PRO 6000 Blackwell with TensorRT 11.4 (CUDA 13.4). Other
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