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families/deformable_detr builds SenseTime/deformable-detr (ResNet-50, 4 levels, 6 + 6 layers, d_model 256) as one detector engine (batch 1, dynamic height and width, fp16 at 800 x 800 in the manifest) and has no quantized build. No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of this model exists on the Hub, so FP8 self-quantization of the encoder and decoder linears (build-time per-tensor FP8 weights, ModelOpt-calibrated static activation scales, fp16 Dequantize) was built and measured on TensorRT 11.4 (B200, B300) and 11.1 (B200). FP8 does not pay for this family: latency stays at 1.01x of fp16 at 800 x 800 and drops to 0.97x at 800 x 1067, the plan is 8% to 9% smaller and COCO AP drops from 0.4644 to 0.4625. All linears together take 1% to 3% of the engine time. This change adds a README for the family that records the study, like the yolov10 (#2093), bart (#2004), timesfm (#2005) and marian (#2035) studies, so that it does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code is not part of this change. NVFP4 was not tried: FP8 already gives no speedup on these linears.

Exit Criteria

  • The README records the recipe, the method, speed and plan size on B200 and B300 (TensorRT 11.4) and B200 (11.1), AP and agreement against PyTorch fp32, per-part quality, the kernel time per group that explains the missing speedup, NVFP4, what was not tried and when to revisit.
  • No code, test, manifest or bundle change; builds are unchanged.
  • Non-goals: shipping FP8 or NVFP4 builds, an FP8 manifest or CI case.

Implementation

  • families/deformable_detr/README.md (new): a short family description and the section "FP8 quantization study (not shipped)": summary and decision, recipe, method, results (speed, quality, per part, kernel time per group, a GridSample side finding), NVFP4, what was not tried, when to revisit.

Recipe that was measured (code kept out of the repository):

  • FP8 for 72 of the 100 linears: encoder value_proj, output_proj, fc1, fc2; decoder self-attention q/k/v/o_proj, cross-attention value_proj, output_proj, FFN. fp16: encoder and decoder sampling_offsets and attention_weights (the decoder pair in FP8 gives non-finite output), the class and box heads (AP -1.0 point), the backbone and input-projection convolutions.
  • Weights: per-tensor scale amax / 448 at build time. Activations: static per-tensor scales from ModelOpt FP8_DEFAULT_CFG (max) on the Hugging Face model, 256 COCO 2017 validation images. fp16 Dequantize.

Why no gain: the GEMMs take 0.19 to 0.21 ms of a 7.4 to 16.2 ms profiled run; GridSample (2.1 to 9.7 ms) and the fused normalization and elementwise kernels (4.3 to 5.5 ms) dominate. FP8 saves 0.04 to 0.11 ms of GEMM time, and at 800 x 1067 the Quantize fused into the six encoder deformable-attention sum kernels adds about 0.5 ms.

Change categories

  • Model or runtime behavior
  • Public API
  • ABI
  • Bundle or artifact format
  • Dependencies
  • Documentation only
  • CI or developer tooling

Validation

Commands and Results

python3 -m tools.model_ci validate
python3 -m pytest tools/tests/test_architecture.py tools/tests/test_public_source_hygiene.py -q
python3 tools/pr_metadata.py validate --event <event.json>   # Pull-request metadata is complete.
git diff --check

Documentation only.

Check Result
python3 -m tools.model_ci validate pass
pytest tools/tests/test_architecture.py tools/tests/test_public_source_hygiene.py (CPU) 62 passed
Markdown check of the README (table column counts, code fences) pass
git diff --check pass
python3 tools/pr_metadata.py validate on this description pass

The numbers in the README come from the local study and are not re-run by this change (batch 1, x is fp16 time over FP8 time):

GPU TensorRT fp16 ms 800x800 / 800x1067 FP8 ms x plan MiB fp16 to FP8 AP fp16 / FP8
B200 11.4 5.889 / 14.747 5.850 / 15.230 1.01 / 0.97 83.0 to 75.8 0.4644 / 0.4625
B300 11.4 5.816 / 14.487 5.764 / 14.861 1.01 / 0.97 84.9 to 78.0 0.4641 / 0.4619
B200 11.1 5.889 / 14.766 5.841 / 15.223 1.01 / 0.97 82.8 to 76.3 0.4636 / 0.4620

PyTorch fp32 AP 0.4653. FP8 vs the fp16 engine: logit correlation 0.9991, precision / recall 0.984 to 0.986 / 0.974 to 0.975. No NaN or Inf with the recipe on 400 held-out images.

Hardware, Environment, and Revisions

  • Repository: this commit on top of upstream/main at 236fede5.
  • Checkpoint: SenseTime/deformable-detr at 83ecd26945199939cb82806f988debdb71e6f43e (manifest revision).
  • Data: detection-datasets/coco validation images, 256 for calibration and 400 held out (disjoint).
  • Study: B200 and B300, one GPU per job, TensorRT 11.4.0.106 (target) and 11.1.0.106, torch 2.14.0 (CUDA 13), transformers 5.17.0, ModelOpt 0.46.1. FP8 code on top of main at 94fcf143 (the family graph is unchanged since). Reference: Hugging Face DeformableDetrForObjectDetection in fp32.

Not Run / Remaining Gaps

  • No code was run for this change; the study cannot be rerun from this repository because the FP8 code was not merged.
  • Not measured: B300 with TensorRT 11.1, GB300, H100, FP8 convolutions (the family has no FP8 convolution path), fp32 Dequantize for the decoder cross sampling_offsets + attention_weights pair, the full 5000-image COCO validation set, the native runtime with an FP8 bundle.
  • Latency was timed one variant after the other in one process (not interleaved); the FP8 vs fp16 ratios agree within 0.01 across four jobs.
  • Side finding on main (not fixed here): at 800 x 1067 the fp16 engine is slower than the fp32 engine (B200 14.75 vs 13.99 ms, B300 14.49 vs 13.62 ms); GridSample takes 9.7 ms in fp16 against 8.0 ms in fp32.

Contributor Self-Review

  • I have completed a self-review of this change.

Notes For Future Readers

  • Suggested review order: "Summary and decision", the kernel time table, "When to revisit".
  • Revisit FP8 when GridSample or a fused deformable-attention kernel gets much faster, so that the linears become a larger share of the time, or when the family gets FP8 convolutions.

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Risk rationale: documentation only; one README added, no code, build, bundle or test change.

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Summary

Adds families/deformable_detr/README.md to record the FP8 study for SenseTime/deformable-detr. The document describes the measured recipe, methodology, latency, plan size, COCO AP, per-part quality, kernel-time breakdown, and known limitations.

The documented decision is not to ship FP8. The reported measurements show little latency change at 800 × 800 and slower FP8 latency at 800 × 1067, despite an 8–9% smaller plan. The README also records an untried NVFP4 path, a slower fp16 result at 800 × 1067 than fp32, and conditions for revisiting FP8.

The change adds documentation only. It does not alter model code, manifests, bundles, or CI.

Architecture impact

  • Family-owned files: Adds only families/deformable_detr/README.md.
  • Changed shared surfaces: None.
  • Dependency direction: No new code or dependency direction is introduced.
  • Affected consumers: No runtime or build consumers change. The README informs maintainers and users evaluating this family.
  • Unresolved blast-radius questions: The measured results and claims are documented, but independent reproduction or verification of the study is not available here.
  • Review outcome: HUMAN REVIEW REQUIRED — the available evidence does not independently verify the material measurement claims.
  • Review finding severity counts: not available; no current review findings were supplied.
  • CI, build, and test results: not available.

The README records the Deformable DETR batch-1 TensorRT configuration and an unshipped FP8 study. It documents the quantization recipe, measured latency, plan size, and quality results, performance costs, unmeasured configurations, and conditions for revisiting FP8. It states that the family has no quantized build.

Changes: Deformable DETR FP8 study

Layer / File(s) Summary
Study scope and evaluation method
families/deformable_detr/README.md
The README describes the batch-1 TensorRT configuration, FP8 recipe, and evaluation hardware, software, and methods.
Measurements and shipping decision
families/deformable_detr/README.md
The README reports engine performance and quality measurements, per-component results, and kernel timings. It records the decision not to ship FP8.
Unmeasured configurations and revisit conditions
families/deformable_detr/README.md
The README lists unmeasured configurations and conditions for revisiting FP8.

Estimated code review effort: 2 (Simple) | ~10 minutes

Change: Other

Merge Risk: Low · previous review b9674

The study summary understates one reported GEMM reduction and overstates an untested NVFP4 conclusion. Existing build support is unchanged.

Architecture risk: Low · up to b9674

The change affects 1 system.

Changed systems: families

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  • observed — families (service) was modified; 1 changed file maps to changed impact.

Before / after behavior

  • observed — Modified behavior in families/deformable_detr/README.md: The README describes the family’s batch-1 TensorRT engine configuration and states that it has no quantized or FP8 build. It introduces an unshipped FP8 study and documents its measured latency, plan-size, and COCO AP results.
  • observed — Modified behavior in families/deformable_detr/README.md: The README records the decision not to ship FP8 and summarizes measured GEMM savings, slower 800 × 1067 results, other engine-time costs, and plan-size changes.
  • observed — Modified behavior in families/deformable_detr/README.md: The README documents the measured FP8 recipe, including which model components use FP8 or fp16, the activation and weight scaling choices, the outlier rule, and the dequantization type.
  • observed — Modified behavior in families/deformable_detr/README.md: The README documents the study’s hardware and TensorRT versions, quality and non-finite checks, speed and kernel-time measurement methods, and code provenance.
Pre-merge checks: Passed 8 · Failed 1

Failed Failed checks: 1 warning

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Benchmark Validation Integrity Warning The check applies because the PR adds a benchmark and metric report (families/deformable_detr/README.md, new, +178 lines, docs only). No code changes. The benchmark method is mostly sound: both vari… 1. Widen the GEMM ranges in the "Decision" bullets and the summary to include the B200 11.1 800 x 1067 row (0.409 to 0.073 ms). State the saving range from all rows. Remove "within the run-to-run noise" unless repeated-run variance for the …
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Title check Passed The title clearly and concisely describes the README’s documentation of why FP8 is not shipped for Deformable DETR.
Description check Passed The description covers the required sections, change category, validation, environment, remaining gaps, self-review, and risk rationale. It does not link an originating issue or discussion, but the re…
Docstring Coverage Passed No eligible functions found in the changed files. Skipping docstring coverage check. Docstring coverage is scoped to functions touched by this diff with cyclomatic complexity of at least 2. Documentat…
Linked Issues check Passed Check skipped because no linked issues were found for this pull request.
Out of Scope Changes check Passed Check skipped because no linked issues were found for this pull request.
Family Ownership Boundary Passed The PR adds only families/deformable_detr/README.md. It documents a study and does not introduce a dependency on another family or change a central registry.
Shared Semantic Neutrality Passed The PR only adds families/deformable_detr/README.md. It does not change shared code.
Shared Change Blast Radius Passed The pull request changes only families/deformable_detr/README.md. The diff adds documentation and does not alter shared code, contracts, tooling, examples, benchmarks, catalogs, or validation infras…
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The description covers the required sections, change category, validation, environment, remaining gaps, self-review, and risk rationale. It does not link an originating issue or discussion, but the rest is sufficiently complete.

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The check applies because the PR adds a benchmark and metric report (families/deformable_detr/README.md, new, +178 lines, docs only). No code changes. The benchmark method is mostly sound: both variants use the same harness and GPU, and the README discloses the non-interleaved timing and the evaluation caveats. The summary aggregation, however, conflicts with the tables the README itself publishes. 1. GEMM aggregation omits a contrary row. The "Decision" bullets say the linear GEMMs take "0.19 to 0.21 ms" and that "FP8 saves 0.04 to 0.11 ms of GEMM time, which is within the run-to-run noise." The kernel-time table has a B200, TensorRT 11.1, 800 x 1067 row with GEMM 0.409 ms (fp16) to 0.073 ms (FP8), a saving of about 0.34 ms. That row is excluded from the stated ranges. No run-to-run variance is reported to support the "noise" claim. The 11.1 fp16 GEMM time is also about double the 11.4 value at the same size, which the README does not explain. 2. AP delta for the same recipe differs between jobs. The main results table gives fp16 AP 0.4644 and FP8 (72 linears) AP 0.4625, a drop of about 0.2 point, and the summary repeats this drop. The per-part table, in a separate B200 11.4 job, gives fp16 AP 0.4639 and the "recipe, 72" row at AP 0.4637, a drop of about 0.02 point. The README does not reconcile these two measurements of the same recipe or state the job-to-job spread of the fp16 baseline (0.4644 vs 0.4639). The headline AP delta therefore reflects one job only. 3. Evaluation subset is unclear. The Quality section says "400 ... held out" and also "(800 images at a fixed stride)". The image set used for AP is not stated without ambiguity. Pull-request causality holds because the defects sit in the report that this PR adds. The overall conclusion (no FP8 speedup; linears are a small share of time) is probably still correct. The failure is that the reported evidence level and ranges do not match the measured rows.

Resolution

  1. Widen the GEMM ranges in the "Decision" bullets and the summary to include the B200 11.1 800 x 1067 row (0.409 to 0.073 ms). State the saving range from all rows. Remove "within the run-to-run noise" unless repeated-run variance for the kernel profile is measured and reported. 2. Explain the 11.1 fp16 GEMM value (about 2x the 11.4 value at the same size), or state that kernel attribution differs across TensorRT versions. 3. Reconcile the recipe AP across the main table (0.4644 to 0.4625) and the per-part "recipe, 72" row (0.4639 to 0.4637). Report the AP spread across jobs for the same engine, and qualify the "drops by 0.2 point" claim accordingly. 4. State the exact image set for the 400 held-out images and how it relates to the 800-image stride sample.

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Review comments at @families/deformable_detr/README.md:
- Around line 160-161: Revise the NVFP4 statement in the performance discussion
to present the lack of latency improvement as an expectation, not a measured
conclusion. Clarify that NVFP4 was not measured and that the FP8 results do not
establish how NVFP4 affects non-GEMM kernel time; retain the TensorRT
convolution-path limitation.
- Around line 33-34: Update the Speed summary to account for the TensorRT 11.1
GEMM result: include its fp16 and FP8 timings and reduction, or explicitly limit
the existing timing ranges to TensorRT 11.4 so they are not presented as
covering 11.1.

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1. Widen the GEMM ranges in the "Decision" bullets and the summary to include
the B200 11.1 800 x 1067 row (0.409 to 0.073 ms). State the saving range from
all rows. Remove "within the run-to-run noise" unless repeated-run variance for
the kernel profile is measured and reported. 2. Explain the 11.1 fp16 GEMM value
(about 2x the 11.4 value at the same size), or state that kernel attribution
differs across TensorRT versions. 3. Reconcile the recipe AP across the main
table (0.4644 to 0.4625) and the per-part "recipe, 72" row (0.4639 to 0.4637).
Report the AP spread across jobs for the same engine, and qualify the "drops by
0.2 point" claim accordingly. 4. State the exact image set for the 400 held-out
images and how it relates to the 800-image stride sample.

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- Speed: the GEMMs of all 100 linears take 0.19 to 0.21 ms of a 7.4 to 16.2 ms
layer-profiled run. FP8 saves 0.04 to 0.11 ms of GEMM time, which is within

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Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win

Include the TensorRT 11.1 GEMM result.

Line 146 reports 0.409 ms for fp16 and 0.073 ms for FP8. That is a 0.336 ms reduction, outside both ranges stated here. Include that result or limit this summary to TensorRT 11.4.

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Review comment at @families/deformable_detr/README.md around lines 33 - 34:
Update the Speed summary to account for the TensorRT 11.1 GEMM result: include
its fp16 and FP8 timings and reduction, or explicitly limit the existing timing
ranges to TensorRT 11.4 so they are not presented as covering 11.1.

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Comment on lines +160 to +161
The linears are 1% to 3% of the engine time and FP8 gives no speedup, so a 4-bit
weight cannot help. The convolutions have no NVFP4 path in TensorRT.

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Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win

Qualify the NVFP4 conclusion.

The study did not measure NVFP4. The FP8 results show that quantization can also change non-GEMM kernel time, so the linear-time share does not prove that NVFP4 cannot improve latency. State this as an expectation rather than a measured conclusion.

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Review comment at @families/deformable_detr/README.md around lines 160 - 161:
Revise the NVFP4 statement in the performance discussion to present the lack of
latency improvement as an expectation, not a measured conclusion. Clarify that
NVFP4 was not measured and that the FP8 results do not establish how NVFP4
affects non-GEMM kernel time; retain the TensorRT convolution-path limitation.

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@zhenshanx-nv zhenshanx-nv added the run-internal-ci Maintainer-approved dispatch to internal CI label Nov 9, 2026
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Add a README for the deformable_detr family with the FP8
self-quantization study of SenseTime/deformable-detr on TensorRT 11.4
(B200, B300) and 11.1 (B200): recipe (FP8 for 72 of the 100 encoder and
decoder linears; sampling offsets, attention weights and the heads kept
fp16), measurement method, speed, plan size and COCO AP against PyTorch
fp32, per-part quality and kernel time per group. Latency stays at
1.01x of fp16 at 800 x 800 and drops to 0.97x at 800 x 1067, the plan
is 8% to 9% smaller and AP drops from 0.4644 to 0.4625: all linears
take 1% to 3% of the engine time, GridSample and the fused normalization
and elementwise kernels dominate, and at 800 x 1067 the Quantize fused
into the encoder deformable-attention sum kernels adds 0.5 ms. FP8 is
not shipped. NVFP4 was not tried. Side finding recorded: at 800 x 1067
the fp16 engine is slower than the fp32 engine because of GridSample.

Documentation only; no code change.

Signed-off-by: Zhenshan Xie <zhenshanx@nvidia.com>
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