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docs(timm_dpn): record why FP8 is not shipped - #2131
families/timm_dpn builds timm Dual Path Network classifiers (timm/dpn68b.ra_in1k, timm/dpn92.mx_in1k; 224 x 224, batch 1, fp16 in the manifests) and has no quantized build. No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of any timm DPN exists on the Hub, so FP8 self-quantization of the convolutions (per-channel FP8 weights, ModelOpt-calibrated static per-tensor activation scales, fp16 Dequantize) was built and measured for dpn68b and dpn92 on TensorRT 11.4 (B200, B300) and 11.1 (B200). FP8 does not pay for this family: with every convolution in FP8, TensorRT 11.4 runs each FP8 grouped 3x3 convolution as one convolution per group (dpn68b grows from 131 to 1059 layers) and dpn68b is 7x slower; with the 1x1 convolutions only, dpn68b runs at 0.95x to 0.99x of fp16. Both models lose 2.2 to 3.0 ImageNet top-1 points. This change adds a README for the family that records the study, like yolov10 (#2093) and timm_efficientnet (#2102), so that it does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code is not part of this change. NVFP4 was not tried: TensorRT does not support NVFP4 on convolutions.
The study also records a TensorRT behavior that is independent of FP8: at builder optimization level 1, TensorRT 11.4 (and 11.1) splits each fp16 grouped 3x3 convolution of dpn92 into per-group convolutions with slice and concatenation kernels (2515 layers on B200), so batch 1 is launch bound (5.51 ms). This family is also in #2123 (builder optimization level 1 to 3, not merged); this note edits only the README, so the two changes do not conflict. The README lists the measured level-3 fp16 speed, which changes the fp16 baseline (dpn92 batch 1: 3.93 ms on B200, 3.72 ms on B300).
Exit Criteria
The README records the recipe, the method, speed, plan size and layer count on B200 and B300 (TensorRT 11.4) and B200 (11.1), top-1, agreement and KL divergence against PyTorch fp32, the grouped-convolution split that explains the missing speedup, the dpn92 fp16 baseline, the level-3 fp16 speed from perf(timm): build 21 timm families with TensorRT optimization level 3 #2123, NVFP4, what was not tried and when to revisit.
No code, test, manifest or bundle change; builds are unchanged.
families/timm_dpn/README.md (new): a short family description and the section "FP8 quantization study (not shipped)": summary and decision, recipe, method, results (speed and size for dpn68b and dpn92, layers in the plan, quality), fp16 grouped convolutions in dpn92 with the level-3 numbers, NVFP4, what was not tried, when to revisit.
Recipe that was measured (code kept out of the repository):
Variant A: FP8 for every convolution except the stem (92 in dpn68b), including the grouped 3x3 convolutions. Variant B: FP8 for the 1x1 convolutions only (70 in dpn68b, 64 in dpn92); the grouped 3x3 convolutions stay fp16.
Weights: per-output-channel scale amax / 448 (per tensor as a variant). Activations: static per-tensor scales from ModelOpt FP8_DEFAULT_CFG (max) on the timm PyTorch model, 500 ImageNet validation images. fp16 Dequantize.
Why no gain: variant A is split into per-group FP8 convolutions (774 FP8 convolution kernels in dpn68b); variant B is at the fp16 level on dpn68b and is faster on dpn92 only because the fp16 dpn92 baseline is split the same way. The inputs of the 1x1 convolutions are batch norm + ReLU of the concatenated dual-path state, whose channels span a wide range, so one per-tensor activation scale loses 2.2 to 3.0 top-1 points.
Markdown check of the README (table column counts, code fences)
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The numbers in the README come from the local study and are not re-run by this change (batch 1, B is the 1x1-only FP8 engine, x is fp16 time over FP8 time):
Model
GPU
TensorRT
fp16 ms
FP8 A ms
FP8 B ms
x (B)
top-1 fp16 / FP8 B
dpn68b
B200
11.4
0.424
3.073
0.436
0.97
78.60% / 76.20%
dpn68b
B300
11.4
0.416
2.817
0.422
0.99
78.53% / 76.07%
dpn68b
B200
11.1
0.451
-
0.519
0.87
78.67% / 76.20%
dpn92
B200
11.4
5.512
-
4.396
1.25
80.87% / 77.93%
dpn92
B300
11.4
4.919
-
3.876
1.27
80.87% / 78.27%
dpn92
B200
11.1
5.561
-
4.431
1.25
80.87% / 78.20%
PyTorch fp32 top-1: 78.60% (dpn68b), 80.93% (dpn92) on the same 1500 held-out ImageNet images. No NaN or Inf on the 1500 images at batch 1 and 32, any variant.
Hardware, Environment, and Revisions
Repository: this commit on top of upstream/main at f6550736.
Checkpoints: timm/dpn68b.ra_in1k at fb49a617159bd2a0d6099742a6c57ef2d884dad9, timm/dpn92.mx_in1k at 8f2a71d2525254e14b0830a97250d841d5c4cae8 (manifest revisions).
Data: 2000 ImageNet validation images: 500 for calibration, 1500 held out.
Study: B200 and B300, one GPU per job, TensorRT 11.4.0.106 (target) and 11.1.0.106 (B200), family builder settings (optimization level 1). Reference: the timm PyTorch model in fp32.
Not Run / Remaining Gaps
No code was run for this change; the study cannot be rerun from this repository because the FP8 code was not merged.
Not measured: FP8 at builder optimization level 3, per-channel activation scales, percentile or entropy calibration, B300 on TensorRT 11.1, dpn68, dpn98, dpn107, dpn131, H100, the native runtime with an FP8 bundle.
TensorRT behavior recorded, not fixed here: the per-group split of FP8 grouped convolutions (TensorRT 11.4), and the per-group split of fp16 grouped convolutions in dpn92 at optimization level 1 (TensorRT 11.4 and 11.1).
Contributor Self-Review
I have completed a self-review of this change.
Notes For Future Readers
Suggested review order: "Summary and decision", the dpn68b speed table, "fp16 grouped convolutions in dpn92".
Add a README for the timm_dpn family with the FP8 self-quantization
study of dpn68b and dpn92 on TensorRT 11.4 (B200, B300) and 11.1
(B200): recipe (per-channel FP8 weights, ModelOpt-calibrated static
per-tensor activation scales, fp16 Dequantize), measurement method,
speed, plan size, layer count and ImageNet top-1 against PyTorch fp32.
With every convolution in FP8, TensorRT 11.4 runs each FP8 grouped 3x3
convolution as one convolution per group (131 to 1059 layers) and
dpn68b is 7x slower. With the 1x1 convolutions only, dpn68b runs at
0.95x to 0.99x of fp16 (0.67x to 0.87x on 11.1), and both models lose
2.2 to 3.0 top-1 points. dpn92 is faster in FP8 only because its fp16
baseline is slow: at optimization level 1 TensorRT also splits its fp16
grouped convolutions per group (2515 layers). The note lists the
measured level-3 fp16 speed from the optimization-level change, which
changes that baseline. FP8 is not shipped. NVFP4 was not tried (no
NVFP4 convolution in TensorRT).
Documentation only; no code change.
Signed-off-by: Zhenshan Xie <zhenshanx@nvidia.com>
Adds families/timm_dpn/README.md with the timm DPN build configuration and results from an FP8 self-quantization study of dpn68b and dpn92. The README reports latency, plan size, layer counts, and accuracy across tested precision variants, GPUs, batch sizes, and TensorRT versions.
The README states that FP8 is not shipped. Converting all convolutions to FP8 made dpn68b substantially slower because TensorRT 11.4 split grouped 3x3 convolutions into per-group operations. Converting only 1x1 convolutions provided little or no speedup for dpn68b. Both models lost 2.2–3.0 ImageNet top-1 points. The README also documents dpn92 FP16 grouped-convolution behavior, builder optimization-level comparisons, study methods, unmeasured configurations, and why NVFP4 was not tried.
The change adds one file with 178 lines and removes none. It is documentation only; it adds no implementation code, builds, tests, manifests, or bundles. The study was not rerun for this change, and its code is not in the repository. CI, build, and test results: not available.
Architecture impact
Outcome: HUMAN REVIEW REQUIRED. The change adds no shared code or dependency direction. However, the study results are not independently verifiable from the repository evidence provided. Review the measurement claims and their supporting evidence before relying on them.
Affected consumers: Readers of the timm DPN family documentation. No code consumers are identified.
Unresolved blast-radius questions: The README lists unmeasured models, hardware, and runtime configurations. The available evidence does not establish whether the results generalize beyond the tested configurations.
Review findings: not available.
The README documents timm DPN TensorRT settings and an unshipped FP8 study. It describes the measured recipe, test method, latency, plan size, accuracy, engine structure, and study limitations.
Changes: DPN TensorRT and FP8 study
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Summary
FP8 recipe and summary families/timm_dpn/README.md
The README describes the measured FP8 variants and recipe, and compares latency, plan size, and accuracy.
Measurement method and results families/timm_dpn/README.md
The README records the test method and model measurements, including engine structure and builder optimization comparisons.
Study limits and revisit conditions families/timm_dpn/README.md
The README states which approaches were not tested, lists unmeasured configurations, and gives conditions for revisiting FP8.
NVIDIA/TensorRT-Model-Connect#2102: Both PRs document TensorRT splitting grouped convolutions into per-group operations during FP8 builds, with increased layer counts and performance effects.
Merge Risk: Low · up to 39810
The study contains several inaccuracies that may mislead readers interpreting the results. These are bounded documentation issues and can be corrected with owner follow-up.
Architecture risk: Low · up to 39810
The change affects 1 system.
Changed systems:families
Architecture concerns
No architecture-level concerns identified.
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Systems and components
observed — families (service) was modified; 1 changed file maps to changed impact.
Before / after behavior
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_dpn/README.md: The README identifies the DPN models and shared TensorRT build settings, then states that the family has no quantized build. It introduces the unshipped FP8 study and records the measured slowdown for all-convolution FP8, near-fp16 latency for 1x1-only FP8, and associated top-1 losses.
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_dpn/README.md: The summary table compares fp16 and two FP8 variants on latency, plan size, and top-1 accuracy. The accompanying decision and notes describe the measured dpn68b grouped-convolution layer expansion and slowdown, dpn92’s batch-1 speedup against its slow fp16 baseline and accuracy loss, quality effects of activation scaling, and plan-size reduction.
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_dpn/README.md: The README documents the measured FP8 graph recipe and variant coverage, including which convolutions remain fp16, per-output-channel weight scaling, static per-tensor activation scaling calibrated on 500 images, and fp16 dequantization.
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_dpn/README.md: The method section records the GPUs and TensorRT versions, calibration and held-out image counts, quality and non-finite checks, and timing procedure. It specifies that batch 32 was a scratch build while the family builds batch 1.
Pre-merge checks: 8 · 1
Failed checks: 1 inconclusive
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Benchmark Validation Integrity
The new report compares fp16 and FP8 latency, but the study code is unavailable. families/timm_dpn/README.md:66-83 describes CUDA graph replay and per-engine-call timing; it does not establish the s…
Provide the study harness or equivalent evidence showing the timed regions and synchronization, transfer, validation, and serialization boundaries for the fp16, FP8, and level-3 comparisons.
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Title check
The title clearly identifies the documentation change and its main point: recording why FP8 is not shipped for timm DPN.
Description check
The description covers the required sections, explains the study and its limits, lists validation results and remaining gaps, and records the change category, self-review, and risk rationale. It notes…
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Family Ownership Boundary
The PR only adds families/timm_dpn/README.md. It introduces no cross-family dependency or central registry change.
Shared Semantic Neutrality
The PR adds only families/timm_dpn/README.md. It does not change shared code, so the check does not apply.
Shared Change Blast Radius
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The description covers the required sections, explains the study and its limits, lists validation results and remaining gaps, and records the change category, self-review, and risk rationale. It notes that the study was not rerun for this documentation-only change.
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The new report compares fp16 and FP8 latency, but the study code is unavailable. families/timm_dpn/README.md:66-83 describes CUDA graph replay and per-engine-call timing; it does not establish the synchronization or transfer boundaries for each path. The level-3 comparison also used a separate job (README.md:141-153). No mismatch is established.
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Provide the study harness or equivalent evidence showing the timed regions and synchronization, transfer, validation, and serialization boundaries for the fp16, FP8, and level-3 comparisons.
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175-175: Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win
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Qualify the per-channel activation suggestion.
TensorRT 11.4 permits per-channel quantization for weights, not activations. The proposed activation Q/DQ approach therefore needs a different implementation or future TensorRT support. State that limitation in the revisit condition and the untested-options table. (docs.nvidia.com)
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Review comments at @families/timm_dpn/README.md:
- Line 61: Update the fp16 recipe in the README to distinguish the measured
models: describe dpn68b with its 3x3 stem and dpn92 with its 7x7 stem, keeping
the other listed components unchanged.
- Line 105: The dpn92 FP8 B on B200 accuracy comparison is inconsistent with the
reported results: 78.20% on TensorRT 11.1 versus 77.93% on 11.4 differs by 0.27
points. Update the cross-version comparison in the README to accurately state
the difference, or correct an underlying result if its value is wrong; ensure
the comparison matches the final reported measurements.
- Around line 45-46: Update the 1x1 convolution description in the README to
match the input paths in _build_engine: describe the grouped c3x3_b output as
the input to c1x1_c, c1x1_c1, and c1x1_c2, and limit the merged-state
explanation to only the 1x1 convolutions that actually receive that state.
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Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win
Correct the 1x1 input description.
In families/timm_dpn/model.py, _build_engine passes the grouped c3x3_b output to c1x1_c, not the concatenated dual-path state. The c1x1_c1 and c1x1_c2 inputs follow that same path. Limit this explanation to the 1x1 convolutions that actually receive the merged state. (raw.githubusercontent.com)
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Review comment at @families/timm_dpn/README.md around lines 45 - 46:
Update the 1x1 convolution description in the README to match the input paths in
_build_engine: describe the grouped c3x3_b output as the input to c1x1_c,
c1x1_c1, and c1x1_c2, and limit the merged-state explanation to only the 1x1
convolutions that actually receive that state.
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Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win
Correct the dpn68b stem size.
The dpn68b stem is 3x3, not 7x7; dpn92 uses a 7x7 stem. Correct the recipe so it describes both measured models. (raw.githubusercontent.com)
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Review comment at @families/timm_dpn/README.md at line 61:
Update the fp16 recipe in the README to distinguish the measured models:
describe dpn68b with its 3x3 stem and dpn92 with its 7x7 stem, keeping the other
listed components unchanged.
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Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win
Correct the cross-version accuracy comparison.
For dpn92 FP8 B on B200, Line 106 reports 78.20% on TensorRT 11.1 and Line 127 reports 77.93% on 11.4. The difference is 0.27 points, not within 0.1 point. Update the comparison or correct the underlying result.
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Review comment at @families/timm_dpn/README.md at line 105:
The dpn92 FP8 B on B200 accuracy comparison is inconsistent with the reported
results: 78.20% on TensorRT 11.1 versus 77.93% on 11.4 differs by 0.27 points.
Update the cross-version comparison in the README to accurately state the
difference, or correct an underlying result if its value is wrong; ensure the
comparison matches the final reported measurements.
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review. Visit https://docs.coderabbit.ai/cli?utm_source=ghpr
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families/timm_dpnbuilds timm Dual Path Network classifiers (timm/dpn68b.ra_in1k,timm/dpn92.mx_in1k; 224 x 224, batch 1, fp16 in the manifests) and has no quantized build. No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of any timm DPN exists on the Hub, so FP8 self-quantization of the convolutions (per-channel FP8 weights, ModelOpt-calibrated static per-tensor activation scales, fp16 Dequantize) was built and measured for dpn68b and dpn92 on TensorRT 11.4 (B200, B300) and 11.1 (B200). FP8 does not pay for this family: with every convolution in FP8, TensorRT 11.4 runs each FP8 grouped 3x3 convolution as one convolution per group (dpn68b grows from 131 to 1059 layers) and dpn68b is 7x slower; with the 1x1 convolutions only, dpn68b runs at 0.95x to 0.99x of fp16. Both models lose 2.2 to 3.0 ImageNet top-1 points. This change adds a README for the family that records the study, like yolov10 (#2093) and timm_efficientnet (#2102), so that it does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code is not part of this change. NVFP4 was not tried: TensorRT does not support NVFP4 on convolutions.The study also records a TensorRT behavior that is independent of FP8: at builder optimization level 1, TensorRT 11.4 (and 11.1) splits each fp16 grouped 3x3 convolution of dpn92 into per-group convolutions with slice and concatenation kernels (2515 layers on B200), so batch 1 is launch bound (5.51 ms). This family is also in #2123 (builder optimization level 1 to 3, not merged); this note edits only the README, so the two changes do not conflict. The README lists the measured level-3 fp16 speed, which changes the fp16 baseline (dpn92 batch 1: 3.93 ms on B200, 3.72 ms on B300).
Exit Criteria
Implementation
families/timm_dpn/README.md(new): a short family description and the section "FP8 quantization study (not shipped)": summary and decision, recipe, method, results (speed and size for dpn68b and dpn92, layers in the plan, quality), fp16 grouped convolutions in dpn92 with the level-3 numbers, NVFP4, what was not tried, when to revisit.Recipe that was measured (code kept out of the repository):
FP8_DEFAULT_CFG(max) on the timm PyTorch model, 500 ImageNet validation images. fp16 Dequantize.Why no gain: variant A is split into per-group FP8 convolutions (774 FP8 convolution kernels in dpn68b); variant B is at the fp16 level on dpn68b and is faster on dpn92 only because the fp16 dpn92 baseline is split the same way. The inputs of the 1x1 convolutions are batch norm + ReLU of the concatenated dual-path state, whose channels span a wide range, so one per-tensor activation scale loses 2.2 to 3.0 top-1 points.
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Commands and Results
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python3 -m tools.model_ci validatepytest tools/tests/test_architecture.py tools/tests/test_public_source_hygiene.py(CPU)git diff --checkpython3 tools/pr_metadata.py validateon this descriptionThe numbers in the README come from the local study and are not re-run by this change (batch 1, B is the 1x1-only FP8 engine, x is fp16 time over FP8 time):
PyTorch fp32 top-1: 78.60% (dpn68b), 80.93% (dpn92) on the same 1500 held-out ImageNet images. No NaN or Inf on the 1500 images at batch 1 and 32, any variant.
Hardware, Environment, and Revisions
upstream/mainatf6550736.timm/dpn68b.ra_in1katfb49a617159bd2a0d6099742a6c57ef2d884dad9,timm/dpn92.mx_in1kat8f2a71d2525254e14b0830a97250d841d5c4cae8(manifest revisions).Not Run / Remaining Gaps
Contributor Self-Review
Notes For Future Readers
Risk level
Risk rationale: documentation only; one README added, no code, build, bundle or test change.
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