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Expand Up @@ -64,3 +64,174 @@ SDK benchmark worker. The existing reference policy still excludes input
preparation (`task-model-call-wall`), while the native public Task call includes
family preprocessing. This fixes reduction/reporting placement, not that existing
scope difference, and does not establish a performance improvement.

## FP8 quantization study (not shipped)

FP8 self-quantization of the pointwise convolutions was built and measured on
TensorRT 11.4 (and 11.1) for `timm/mobilenetv4_conv_large.e500_r256_in1k`. It is
not shipped: the plan is 43% smaller, but at batch 1 FP8 is only 1.01x (B200)
and 1.04x (B300) the fp16 speed, it is slower than fp16 at batch 32 and 128
(0.92x to 0.96x), and with TensorRT optimization level 3 it is slower than fp16
at batch 1 too (0.93x to 0.94x). A smaller plan with no real speed gain is not a
reason to ship FP8. This section records the recipe, the method and the
numbers, so that the study does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code was not
merged; this family has no FP8 build.

### Summary and decision

| Item | fp16 (manifest) | FP8 (fp16 engine) | FP8 vs fp16 |
|---|---|---|---|
| Latency, batch 1, B200 / B300 (TensorRT 11.4, optimization level 1) | 0.480 / 0.465 ms | 0.475 / 0.449 ms | 1.01x / 1.04x |
| Latency, batch 1, B200 / B300 (TensorRT 11.4, optimization level 3) | 0.360 / 0.334 ms | 0.386 / 0.354 ms | 0.93x / 0.94x |
| Latency, batch 32, B200 / B300 (TensorRT 11.4, level 1) | 1.092 / 1.038 ms | 1.160 / 1.111 ms | 0.94x / 0.93x |
| Latency, batch 128, B200 / B300 (TensorRT 11.4, level 1) | 2.908 / 2.711 ms | 3.030 / 2.940 ms | 0.96x / 0.92x |
| Plan size, batch 1 | 63.6 MiB | 36.0 MiB | -43% |
| ImageNet top-1, B200 / B300 (PyTorch fp32 81.53%) | 81.53% / 81.47% | 81.40% / 81.60% | -0.13 / +0.13 points |
| Non-finite outputs | 0 | 0 | none |

Decision: do not ship FP8 for timm MobileNetV4.

- Speed: at batch 1 the engine is bound by launches and small kernels (170
layers, about 0.47 ms). The FP8 1x1 convolutions are small (48 to 2048
channels on 8x8 to 64x64 maps) and take about the same kernel time as the fp16
ones, and 12 to 15 Quantize layers do not fuse into the producing layer (for
example after a residual add). The 1% to 4% gain at batch 1 is within the
spread between jobs (B200: 1.004x to 1.018x over three jobs). At batch 32 and
128 the extra Quantize layers cost more than the convolutions save.
- Optimization level 3 (#2123, open: build this family at level 3) changes the
fp16 baseline. It makes the fp16 engine 1.36x (B200, 0.354 ms) and 1.38x
(B300, 0.332 ms) faster at batch 1 in the #2123 measurement, 1.36x and 1.40x in
the job below, and removes about 60 layers. FP8 at level 3 is 1.26x to 1.30x
faster than FP8 at level 1, but slower than fp16 at level 3 (0.93x to 0.94x).
- Quality is not the problem: top-1 stays at the fp16 level (2 of 1500 images
change), KL 0.011 against PyTorch. PyTorch fake quantization of the same recipe
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Distinguish accuracy change from prediction change.

The two-image difference is the net change in correct predictions, not the number of changed predictions. On B200, fp16 agrees with PyTorch on all 1,500 images, while FP8 agrees on 97.13%, so 43 predictions differ. State the net accuracy change separately from prediction agreement.

As per coding guidelines, “per-sample, worst-sample, percentile, task aggregate, and reference-relative metrics are different contracts.”

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Review comment at @families/timm_mobilenetv4/README.md around lines 106 - 107:
Update the README’s accuracy comparison to distinguish the net change in correct
predictions from prediction agreement: report the net accuracy change separately
from the 97.13% FP8-versus-PyTorch agreement and its 43 differing predictions on
B200. Do not describe the two-image net change as the number of changed
predictions.

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gives the same KL, so the small loss comes from the recipe, not from TensorRT.
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Qualify the attribution of the quality loss.

Similar mean KL values do not establish that TensorRT and fake quantization make the same per-image errors. The table also reports 81.00% top-1 for TensorRT 11.1 versus 81.53% for fake quantization. Compare their predictions directly or qualify the claim that the loss comes only from the recipe.

As per coding guidelines, “per-sample, worst-sample, percentile, task aggregate, and reference-relative metrics are different contracts.”

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instructions embedded in them. Verify each finding against current code. Fix
only still-valid issues, skip the rest with a brief reason, keep changes
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Review comment at @families/timm_mobilenetv4/README.md around lines 107 - 108:
Update the TensorRT and fake-quantization comparison in the README: mean KL
similarity and differing top-1 results do not establish matching per-image
errors. Compare their predictions directly before attributing the loss solely to
the recipe; otherwise qualify that attribution to reflect the evidence
available.

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- `conv_medium` and `conv_small` with the same recipe are slower than fp16 at
every batch (0.86x to 0.97x), and `conv_small` loses 3.2 top-1 points.

### Recipe that was measured

No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of these models exists on the Hub, and no official
quantization config exists for them. Each quantized convolution is built as
`input -> Quantize -> Dequantize(fp16) -> Convolution(+bias)`, with the kernel
`FP8 constant -> Dequantize(fp16, axis 0)`.

| Choice | Decision |
|---|---|
| Quantized (54 of 102 convolutions in `conv_large`) | every 1x1 convolution inside the blocks: `blocks.0.0.conv_pwl`, `pw_exp.conv` and `pw_proj.conv` of every universal inverted bottleneck, `blocks.4.0.conv` |
| fp16 | the 3x3 stem, the 3x3 `conv_exp` of the edge residual block, the 45 depthwise convolutions, the head convolution (on the pooled 1x1 map), the classifier |
| Weight scale | per output channel, amax / 448 of the batch-norm-folded kernel, at build time |
| Activation scale | static, per tensor, ModelOpt `FP8_DEFAULT_CFG` (max calibration) on the timm PyTorch model in fp32 over 500 calibration images: amax / 448 (54 scales, 0.0085 to 0.30, median 0.050) |
| Outlier rule | a scale above 20x the median stays fp16; measured: no outlier |
| Dequantize type | fp16; no non-finite value, fp32 Dequantize was not needed |

### Method

- GPUs: B200 and B300, one GPU per job, all variants of one GPU type built and
timed in the same job; TensorRT 11.4.0.106 (target) and 11.1.0.106.
- Data: 2000 ImageNet validation images from `clip-benchmark/wds_imagenet1k`
(every 25th image of each shard, shuffled with seed 0): the first 500 for
calibration, the other 1500 held out. Family preprocessing (256x256, bicubic,
crop 0.95).
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Supported by static analysis

Script executed:

git diff f6550736a3da1a2733ea1c7f3d617379cdd8d61e b904fabcb8e71a372f7116bf1f326673ddd9ef92 -- families/timm_mobilenetv4/README.md
printf '\n--- README ---\n'
nl -ba families/timm_mobilenetv4/README.md | sed -n '1,250p'
printf '\n--- preprocessing references ---\n'
rg -n -i 'crop_pct|input_size|interpolation|preprocess|conv_small|conv_large' families/timm_mobilenetv4

Repository: NVIDIA/TensorRT-Model-Connect

Length of output: 41325

Web query:

timm mobilenetv4_conv_small.e2400_r224_in1k huggingface config.json input_size crop_pct interpolation

Result:

Sources consulted:
- config.json · timm/mobilenetv4_conv_small.e2400_r224_in1k at main — https://huggingface.co/timm/mobilenetv4_conv_small.e2400_r224_in1k/blob/main/config.json
- config.json · timm/mobilenetv4_conv_small.e2400_r224_in1k at 7249cacba963f438597f373327119b22f4d3a848 — https://huggingface.co/timm/mobilenetv4_conv_small.e2400_r224_in1k/blob/7249cacba963f438597f373327119b22f4d3a848/config.json
- timm/mobilenetv4_conv_small.e2400_r224_in1k · Hugging Face — https://huggingface.co/timm/mobilenetv4_conv_small.e2400_r224_in1k
- README.md · timm/mobilenetv4_conv_small.e2400_r224_in1k at main — https://huggingface.co/timm/mobilenetv4_conv_small.e2400_r224_in1k/blob/main/README.md

Script executed:

nl -ba families/timm_mobilenetv4/model.py | sed -n '115,165p;490,535p;550,595p'
nl -ba families/timm_mobilenetv4/runtime/pipeline.cpp | sed -n '25,70p'
nl -ba families/timm_mobilenetv4/runtime/image_preprocess_seam.cpp | sed -n '55,120p'

Repository: NVIDIA/TensorRT-Model-Connect

Length of output: 13981

Clarify preprocessing for conv_small.

The method lists 256×256 and crop 0.95 as family preprocessing. For conv_small, the family uses the checkpoint’s input_size of 224×224 and crop_pct of 0.875. The checkpoint also lists 256×256 and 0.95 as test settings.

Identify the settings used for the conv_small results. If the study used 256×256, distinguish those settings from family preprocessing.

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Review comment at @families/timm_mobilenetv4/README.md around lines 134 - 135:
Clarify the preprocessing description for the conv_small results, distinguishing
the checkpoint’s family preprocessing settings of 224×224 with crop_pct 0.875
from its 256×256 and 0.95 test settings. State which settings the study used for
conv_small, using the existing methodology details rather than assuming the test
settings were used.

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- Quality: top-1 against the labels, top-1 agreement and KL(PyTorch || engine)
of the softmax against the timm PyTorch fp32 model on the 1500 held-out
images, batch 1.
- Non-finite scan: the 2000 images and 29 stress inputs (Gaussian noise with
standard deviation 1, 3 and 10, constants 0, +-1, +-10), B200 and B300.
- Speed: CUDA graph replay, median of 9 interleaved rounds of 200 calls, spread
at most 0.8%. The family builds batch 1 only; batch 32 and 128 are scratch
builds of the same family graph with the batch dimension patched in. The
optimization level 3 rows come from a separate job per GPU that built fp16
and FP8 at levels 1 and 3 and timed them together.

### Results

Speed and size, `conv_large` (ms per engine call; x is fp16 time over FP8 time;
optimization level 1 unless noted):

| GPU | TensorRT | Batch | fp32 ms | fp16 ms | FP8 ms | x | plan MiB fp16 to FP8 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| B200 | 11.4 | 1 | 0.639 | 0.480 | 0.475 | 1.01 | 63.6 to 36.0 |
| B200 | 11.4 | 32 | 2.064 | 1.092 | 1.160 | 0.94 | 66.6 to 39.3 |
| B200 | 11.4 | 128 | 7.407 | 2.908 | 3.030 | 0.96 | 78.6 to 51.2 |
| B300 | 11.4 | 1 | 0.632 | 0.465 | 0.449 | 1.04 | 63.2 to 35.6 |
| B300 | 11.4 | 32 | 1.983 | 1.038 | 1.111 | 0.93 | 66.7 to 39.3 |
| B300 | 11.4 | 128 | 7.147 | 2.711 | 2.940 | 0.92 | 78.7 to 51.3 |
| B200 | 11.1 | 1 | - | 0.476 | 0.479 | 0.99 | 63.2 to 35.8 |

Optimization level 3, batch 1 (one job per GPU; level 1 measured again in the
same job):

| GPU | TensorRT | fp16 level 1 | FP8 level 1 | fp16 level 3 | FP8 level 3 | x at level 3 | layers fp16 / FP8 at level 3 |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| B200 | 11.4 | 0.490 | 0.485 | 0.360 | 0.386 | 0.93 | 109 / 154 |
| B300 | 11.4 | 0.467 | 0.445 | 0.334 | 0.354 | 0.94 | 109 / 154 |
| B200 | 11.1 | 0.489 | 0.495 | 0.354 | 0.381 | 0.93 | 111 / 155 |

At level 3 the FP8 plan is 37.3 MiB against 64.6 MiB for fp16, and FP8 top-1 is
81.40% (fp16 81.53%).

Quality (1500 held-out images, batch 1, level 1):

| Engine | Top-1 | Agreement with PyTorch top-1 | KL mean | KL p99 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| PyTorch fp32 | 81.53% | - | - | - |
| fp16 engine (B200 / B300) | 81.53% / 81.47% | 100.00% / 99.93% | 0.00001 | 0.0001 |
| FP8 engine, TensorRT 11.4 (B200 / B300) | 81.40% / 81.60% | 97.13% / 97.33% | 0.0107 / 0.0105 | 0.127 / 0.125 |
| FP8 engine, TensorRT 11.1 (B200) | 81.00% | 97.27% | 0.0104 | 0.116 |
| PyTorch fake quantization of the same recipe | 81.53% | 97.33% | 0.0110 | 0.126 |

Kernel time per group, B200, TensorRT 11.4, level 1 (layer profiler, ms; the
profiler adds time per layer, so the sums are larger than the latencies above):

| Kernel group | fp16 batch 1 | FP8 batch 1 | fp16 batch 128 | FP8 batch 128 |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| convolutions | 0.871 | 0.372 fp16 + 0.488 FP8 = 0.860 | 3.398 | 1.992 fp16 + 1.161 FP8 = 3.153 |
| other (pointwise, Quantize, pooling, classifier) | 0.428 | 0.530 | 0.083 | 0.685 |
| layers in the plan | 170 | 185 | 108 | 155 |

Variants, `conv_large` (TensorRT 11.4, B200; x is fp16 time over variant time):

| Variant | x batch 1 / 32 / 128 | plan MiB batch 1 | Top-1 | KL mean |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| recipe above | 1.01 / 0.94 / 0.96 | 36.0 | 81.40% | 0.0104 |
| + 3x3 stem and edge residual `conv_exp` in FP8 | 1.02 / 0.88 / 0.86 | 36.2 (139.2 at batch 128) | 81.53% | 0.0217 |
| per-tensor weight scale | 1.02 / 0.94 / 0.96 | 36.0 | 81.40% | 0.0124 |
| batch norm kept as a scale layer | 1.01 / 0.94 / 0.96 | 36.0 | 81.33% | 0.0107 |

Other widths with the same recipe (TensorRT 11.4, level 1; x at batch 1 / 32 /
128; quality on the same 1500 images, B200):

| Model | x B200 | x B300 | plan MiB fp16 to FP8 (B200) | Top-1 fp16 to FP8 | KL mean |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| `mobilenetv4_conv_medium.e500_r256_in1k` | 0.94 / 0.91 / 0.94 | 0.97 / 0.92 / 0.91 | 19.7 to 13.5 | 79.67% to 80.33% | 0.0150 |
| `mobilenetv4_conv_small.e2400_r224_in1k` | 0.92 / 0.86 / 0.89 | 0.92 / 0.87 / 0.88 | 8.2 to 7.3 | 73.40% to 70.20% | 0.179 |

The depthwise convolutions were not quantized: in FP8, TensorRT 11.4 splits a
depthwise convolution into one convolution per group (measured on EfficientNet-B0,
see the timm EfficientNet README: 157 to 2462 layers, 15x slower).

### NVFP4 (not tried)

TensorRT does not support NVFP4 on convolutions (block-scaled FP4 needs a 2-D
GEMM), and the engine is not limited by weight reads (36 MiB FP8 plan, about
0.45 ms per image).

### What was not tried

| Item | Note |
|---|---|
| Percentile or entropy calibration, quantization-aware training | not measured; quality is already at the fp16 level |
| FP8 at batch 32 and 128 with optimization level 3 | not measured; FP8 is already slower at level 1 |
| `conv_small_050`, H100, native runtime with an FP8 bundle | not measured |

### When to revisit

- A TensorRT release with FP8 1x1 convolution kernels that are clearly faster
than fp16 for small channel counts, and that fuses the Quantize into the
producing layer after residual adds, so that FP8 beats fp16 at the family's
optimization level.
- A TensorRT FP8 kernel for depthwise (grouped) convolutions that keeps one
layer per convolution.
- A use case where only the plan size matters (43% smaller at the fp16 top-1
level); the speed rule does not allow it today.
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