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docs(timm_resnest): record why FP8 is not shipped - #2147
families/timm_resnest builds timm/resnest50d.in1k as one image classification engine (224 x 224, batch 1, fp16 in the manifest, TensorRT builder optimization level 3 since #2123) and has no quantized build. No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of this model exists on the Hub, so FP8 self-quantization of the convolutions (the recipe of the shipped timm_resnet FP8 build, #2096: build-time per-channel FP8 weights on the batch-norm-folded kernels, static per-tensor activation scales from max calibration) was built and measured on TensorRT 11.4 and 11.1. FP8 does not pay for this family: at batch 1 no layout is faster than fp16 on both B200 and B300 (0.89x to 1.02x against fp16 at the same optimization level; at level 3, B200 0.91x / 0.99x and B300 1.01x / 1.02x), and quantizing all convolutions costs about 1 ImageNet top-1 point (82.47% to 81.20%). The plan is about 40% smaller, but a size gain without a speed gain is not shipped. The convolutions are only about 60% of the batch 1 kernel time; the split-attention reshape, radix softmax, sums and pooling make up the rest. This change adds a README for the family that records the study, like the yolov10 (#2093) and timm_efficientnet (#2102) studies, so that it does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code is not part of this change. NVFP4 was not tried: TensorRT does not support NVFP4 on convolutions.
Exit Criteria
The README records the recipe, the method, speed and plan size on B200 and B300 (TensorRT 11.4 at optimization level 3 and 1, 11.1), top-1 against PyTorch fp32, the kernel time that explains the missing speedup, the recipe variants, NVFP4 and when to revisit.
No code, test, manifest or bundle change; builds are unchanged.
Non-goals: shipping FP8 or NVFP4 builds, an FP8 manifest or CI case.
Implementation
families/timm_resnest/README.md (new): a short family description and the section "FP8 quantization study (not shipped)": summary and decision, recipe, method, results (speed and size at level 3 and level 1, quality, PyTorch fake quantization, kernel time per group), NVFP4, what was not tried, when to revisit.
Recipe that was measured (code kept out of the repository):
FP8 for 84 of 87 convolutions (block conv1, the split-attention grouped conv2.conv, the attention gate conv2.fc1 / conv2.fc2, conv3, downsample); the three deep-stem convolutions and the classifier stay fp16. Variants: gate convolutions fp16 ("nose", 52 FP8), and also stage layer1 fp16 ("nose-L1", 42 FP8).
Weights: per-output-channel scale amax / 448 of the batch-norm-folded kernel at build time. Activations: static per-tensor scale max |input| / 448 over 500 ImageNet validation images. fp16 Dequantize.
Why no gain: at batch 1 the FP8 convolutions take about the same kernel time as fp16 (0.485 vs 0.457 ms, B300, level 1), the non-convolution kernels (0.30 ms of 0.76 ms) do not change, and the Quantize layers add 13 to 23 kernels. The only gain measured is 1.04x to 1.07x at batch 32 with all convolutions in FP8, which the family does not build. The accuracy loss is the recipe's: PyTorch fake quantization of the same scales gives 81.27%.
Markdown check of the README (table column counts, code fences)
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python3 tools/pr_metadata.py validate on this description
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The numbers in the README come from the local study and are not re-run by this change. Batch 1 on this base (x is fp16 level 3 time over variant time, same job per GPU):
GPU
TensorRT
Level
fp16 ms
FP8 all ms
FP8 nose-L1 ms
plan MiB fp16 / FP8 all
B200
11.4
3
0.552
0.604 (0.91x)
0.556 (0.99x)
55.9 / 32.6
B300
11.4
3
0.558
0.555 (1.01x)
0.547 (1.02x)
55.9 / 32.6
B200
11.1
3
0.538
0.548 (0.98x)
0.540 (1.00x)
55.7 / 32.6
First study at level 1 (TensorRT 11.4, x is fp16 over FP8 all): batch 1 B200 0.91x, B300 0.94x; batch 32 B200 1.04x, B300 1.07x.
Top-1 on 1500 held-out images (level 3, B200 / B300): PyTorch fp32 82.47%, fp16 engine 82.47% / 82.47%, FP8 all 81.20% / 81.20%, FP8 nose-L1 82.33% / 81.93%. No NaN or Inf on 2000 images and 29 stress inputs in any run.
Hardware, Environment, and Revisions
Repository: this commit on top of upstream/main at f8800ce3.
Checkpoint: timm/resnest50d.in1k at 2239b0d822126dee3bc7a5357514de35b8f42092 (manifest revision).
Data: 2000 images of clip-benchmark/wds_imagenet1k validation (fixed stride): every 4th image (500) for calibration, 1500 held out.
Study: B200 and B300, one GPU per job, all variants in one job per GPU type, TensorRT 11.4.0.106 (target) and 11.1.0.106 (B200), torch 2.14.0 (CUDA 13). The first study (level 1, batch 1 and 32) ran on upstream/main at f8800ce3; the level 3 and level 1 batch 1 check ran on the base of this change. Reference: the timm PyTorch model in fp32 with the checkpoint's preprocessing.
Not Run / Remaining Gaps
No code was run for this change; the study cannot be rerun from this repository because the FP8 code was not merged.
Not measured: entropy calibration, quantization-aware training, other ResNeSt sizes, H100, FP8 above batch 1 at level 3, the native runtime with an FP8 bundle.
No problem on main was found during the study.
Contributor Self-Review
I have completed a self-review of this change.
Notes For Future Readers
Suggested review order: "Summary and decision", the kernel time table, "When to revisit".
Revisit FP8 if the family adds batch sizes above 1, or when a TensorRT release fuses the split-attention kernels so that the convolutions become the larger share of the time.
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Risk rationale: documentation only; one new README, no code, build, bundle or test change.
Add a README for the family with the FP8 self-quantization study: recipe, method, speed and plan size on B200 and B300 (TensorRT 11.4 at optimization level 3 and 1, 11.1), ImageNet top-1, kernel time per group, NVFP4 and when to revisit. FP8 is not faster than fp16 at batch 1 on both GPUs and costs about 1 top-1 point with all convolutions quantized. Documentation only.
Signed-off-by: Zhenshan Xie <zhenshanx@nvidia.com>
Adds a family-owned README for timm_resnest. It records the FP8 quantization study and explains why the family does not ship an FP8 build. At batch 1, the measured FP8 variants were not consistently faster than FP16 across the tested TensorRT versions, GPUs, and optimization levels. Quantizing all convolutions reduced top-1 accuracy by about one point. The README also documents the recipe, measurements, untested approaches, and conditions for revisiting FP8.
Architecture impact
Family-owned files: Adds only families/timm_resnest/README.md.
Shared surfaces: No shared code or public interfaces changed.
Dependency direction: No dependencies were added.
Affected consumers: No code consumers are changed; the README documents the timm_resnest family.
Unresolved blast-radius questions: None identified for this documentation-only diff.
Review outcome:PASS — no standards or specification violation was found in the reviewed evidence. This is not proof of correctness.
Validation
Reported check results: not available. The provided context reports checks, but does not establish that they completed on the current head.
The ResNeSt README documents its batch-1 fp16 TensorRT configuration and an FP8 study that was not shipped. It records the study method, benchmark results, and conditions for reconsidering FP8.
Changes: ResNeSt FP8 study documentation
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Summary
Model configuration and FP8 study families/timm_resnest/README.md
The README documents the batch-1 fp16 configuration, FP8 quantization recipe and evaluation method, benchmark results, and conditions for reconsidering FP8.
The README overstates the batch-1 speed results. Clarify that FP8 was not consistently or meaningfully faster before merging so readers can interpret the study accurately.
Architecture risk: Low · up to f04df
The change affects 1 system.
Changed systems:families
Architecture concerns
No architecture-level concerns identified.
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Systems and components
observed — families (service) was modified; 1 changed file maps to changed impact.
Before / after behavior
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_resnest/README.md: The README identifies the ResNeSt model, batch-1 fp16 TensorRT configuration and classification engine, and states that the family has no quantized build.
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_resnest/README.md: The README records the FP8 study as not shipped and documents its batch-1 speed and accuracy results, the all-convolution and partial-fp16 variants, and the decision not to ship FP8.
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_resnest/README.md: The README documents the measured FP8 recipe, including which convolutions were quantized or kept in fp16, the two partial-fp16 variants, and the weight and activation scaling choices.
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_resnest/README.md: The README describes the GPUs, TensorRT versions and optimization levels, evaluation data and quality measures, non-finite scan inputs, and timing procedure.
Pre-merge checks: 8 · 1
Failed checks: 1 inconclusive
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The new report compares FP16 and FP8 engine latency, but the measurement boundaries cannot be verified. families/timm_resnest/README.md:66-80 describes a common CUDA graph method, while lines 84-108…
Provide the study timing code or equivalent evidence that defines the timed region and synchronization, transfer, and validation behavior for both FP16 and FP8.
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Title check
The title clearly describes the main change: documenting why FP8 is not shipped for timm_resnest.
Description check
The description covers the required template sections, including motivation, exit criteria, implementation, change category, validation, environment, remaining gaps, self-review, future notes, and ris…
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Family Ownership Boundary
The PR adds only families/timm_resnest/README.md. It describes a recipe also used by timm_resnet, but states that the FP8 code was not merged. The diff introduces no cross-family dependency or reg…
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The PR adds only families/timm_resnest/README.md. It changes no shared code, so the check does not apply.
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The PR only adds families/timm_resnest/README.md. It does not change a shared surface, so the check does not apply.
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The description covers the required template sections, including motivation, exit criteria, implementation, change category, validation, environment, remaining gaps, self-review, future notes, and risk level.
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The PR adds only families/timm_resnest/README.md. It describes a recipe also used by timm_resnet, but states that the FP8 code was not merged. The diff introduces no cross-family dependency or registry change.
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The new report compares FP16 and FP8 engine latency, but the measurement boundaries cannot be verified. families/timm_resnest/README.md:66-80 describes a common CUDA graph method, while lines 84-108 report the comparisons. The study code was not merged, and the report does not specify how synchronization, transfers, or output checks enter each timed path.
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Provide the study timing code or equivalent evidence that defines the timed region and synchronization, transfer, and validation behavior for both FP16 and FP8.
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- Line 11: Revise the FP8-versus-fp16 performance claim in the README to state
that FP8 was not consistently or meaningfully faster, accounting for the
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level 3 B300 batch-1 result so the claim reflects the measured gains without
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Qualify the speed claims.
At level 1, nose-L1 has lower measured latency than fp16 on both GPUs, though the differences are within the stated spread. At level 3, B300 reaches 1.02x at batch 1, so batch 32 is not the only measured gain. State that FP8 was not consistently or meaningfully faster, and account for the measurement spread.
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Review comment at @families/timm_resnest/README.md at line 11:
Revise the FP8-versus-fp16 performance claim in the README to state that FP8 was
not consistently or meaningfully faster, accounting for the measurement spread.
Include the level 1 nose-L1 results on both GPUs and the level 3 B300 batch-1
result so the claim reflects the measured gains without implying batch 32 was
the only case.
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Background
families/timm_resnestbuildstimm/resnest50d.in1kas one image classification engine (224 x 224, batch 1, fp16 in the manifest, TensorRT builder optimization level 3 since #2123) and has no quantized build. No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of this model exists on the Hub, so FP8 self-quantization of the convolutions (the recipe of the shippedtimm_resnetFP8 build, #2096: build-time per-channel FP8 weights on the batch-norm-folded kernels, static per-tensor activation scales from max calibration) was built and measured on TensorRT 11.4 and 11.1. FP8 does not pay for this family: at batch 1 no layout is faster than fp16 on both B200 and B300 (0.89x to 1.02x against fp16 at the same optimization level; at level 3, B200 0.91x / 0.99x and B300 1.01x / 1.02x), and quantizing all convolutions costs about 1 ImageNet top-1 point (82.47% to 81.20%). The plan is about 40% smaller, but a size gain without a speed gain is not shipped. The convolutions are only about 60% of the batch 1 kernel time; the split-attention reshape, radix softmax, sums and pooling make up the rest. This change adds a README for the family that records the study, like the yolov10 (#2093) and timm_efficientnet (#2102) studies, so that it does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code is not part of this change. NVFP4 was not tried: TensorRT does not support NVFP4 on convolutions.Exit Criteria
Implementation
families/timm_resnest/README.md(new): a short family description and the section "FP8 quantization study (not shipped)": summary and decision, recipe, method, results (speed and size at level 3 and level 1, quality, PyTorch fake quantization, kernel time per group), NVFP4, what was not tried, when to revisit.Recipe that was measured (code kept out of the repository):
conv1, the split-attention groupedconv2.conv, the attention gateconv2.fc1/conv2.fc2,conv3, downsample); the three deep-stem convolutions and the classifier stay fp16. Variants: gate convolutions fp16 ("nose", 52 FP8), and also stagelayer1fp16 ("nose-L1", 42 FP8).Why no gain: at batch 1 the FP8 convolutions take about the same kernel time as fp16 (0.485 vs 0.457 ms, B300, level 1), the non-convolution kernels (0.30 ms of 0.76 ms) do not change, and the Quantize layers add 13 to 23 kernels. The only gain measured is 1.04x to 1.07x at batch 32 with all convolutions in FP8, which the family does not build. The accuracy loss is the recipe's: PyTorch fake quantization of the same scales gives 81.27%.
Change categories
Validation
Commands and Results
Documentation only.
python3 -m tools.model_ci validatepytest tools/tests/test_architecture.py tools/tests/test_public_source_hygiene.py(CPU)git diff --checkpython3 tools/pr_metadata.py validateon this descriptionThe numbers in the README come from the local study and are not re-run by this change. Batch 1 on this base (x is fp16 level 3 time over variant time, same job per GPU):
First study at level 1 (TensorRT 11.4, x is fp16 over FP8 all): batch 1 B200 0.91x, B300 0.94x; batch 32 B200 1.04x, B300 1.07x.
Top-1 on 1500 held-out images (level 3, B200 / B300): PyTorch fp32 82.47%, fp16 engine 82.47% / 82.47%, FP8 all 81.20% / 81.20%, FP8 nose-L1 82.33% / 81.93%. No NaN or Inf on 2000 images and 29 stress inputs in any run.
Hardware, Environment, and Revisions
upstream/mainatf8800ce3.timm/resnest50d.in1kat2239b0d822126dee3bc7a5357514de35b8f42092(manifest revision).clip-benchmark/wds_imagenet1kvalidation (fixed stride): every 4th image (500) for calibration, 1500 held out.upstream/mainatf8800ce3; the level 3 and level 1 batch 1 check ran on the base of this change. Reference: the timm PyTorch model in fp32 with the checkpoint's preprocessing.Not Run / Remaining Gaps
Contributor Self-Review
Notes For Future Readers
Risk level
Risk rationale: documentation only; one new README, no code, build, bundle or test change.
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