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docs(pointnet): record why FP8 is not shipped - #2157
families/pointnet builds the yanx27 PointNet S3DIS semantic-segmentation checkpoint as one engine (batch 1, up to 4096 points, fp16 in the manifest) and has no quantized build. No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of this model exists, so FP8 self-quantization of the convolutions and fully connected layers (static per-tensor activation scales from max calibration, fp16 Dequantize) was built and measured on TensorRT 11.4 and 11.1. FP8 does not pay for this family: the engine is launch bound (40 layers of a few microseconds each), so latency stays at the fp16 level (0.97x to 1.04x at batch 1), and point accuracy on the held-out S3DIS area drops from 83.18% to 75.63%. The only gain is plan size (7.4 to about 5 MiB). This change adds a README for the family that records the study, like the timm_efficientnet (#2102) and yolov10 (#2093) studies, so that it does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code is not part of this change. NVFP4 was not tried: TensorRT does not support NVFP4 on convolutions.
Exit Criteria
The README records the recipe, the method, speed and plan size on B200 and B300 (TensorRT 11.4, 11.1), accuracy and mIoU against PyTorch fp32, why there is no speedup, the inactive feature T-Net of the checkpoint, NVFP4 and when to revisit.
No code, test, manifest or bundle change; builds are unchanged.
Non-goals: shipping FP8 or NVFP4 builds, an FP8 manifest or CI case.
Implementation
families/pointnet/README.md (new): a short family description and the section "FP8 quantization study (not shipped)": summary and decision, recipe, method, results (speed and size, TensorRT 11.1 check, quality), notes on the checkpoint, NVFP4, what was not tried, when to revisit.
Recipe that was measured (code kept out of the repository):
FP8 Q/DQ on the input and weight of the 14 convolutions and fully connected layers with a nonzero fp16 weight; the 5 inactive feature T-Net layers, the transform matmuls and the pointwise layers stay fp16.
Weights: per-tensor scale amax / 448 (variant: per output channel). Activations: static per-tensor scale max |input| / 448 over 419 calibration blocks. fp16 Dequantize.
Why no gain: the convolutions are small GEMMs and the engine time is set by about 40 kernel launches, so fp16 is only 0.96x to 1.07x of fp32 speed and FP8 adds nothing over fp16. The family builds batch 1 only.
Markdown check of the README (table column counts, code fences)
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git diff --check
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python3 tools/pr_metadata.py validate on this description
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The numbers in the README come from the local study and are not re-run by this change (4096 points, batch 1, us per engine call; x is fp16 time over FP8 per-tensor time):
GPU
TensorRT
fp32
fp16
FP8 per-tensor
x
plan MiB fp16 to FP8
B200
11.4
146.3
136.3
137.0
0.99
7.4 to 5.0
B300
11.4
138.2
133.0
128.3
1.04
7.4 to 4.9
B200
11.1
146.0
135.2
135.6
1.00
7.3 to 4.9
B300
11.1
138.7
126.1
126.3
1.00
7.4 to 4.9
At 1024 points: 1.00x (B200) and 1.03x (B300) on 11.4.
Point accuracy on 400 held-out Area 5 blocks (B200, TensorRT 11.4): PyTorch fp32 83.17%, fp16 engine 83.18%, FP8 per-tensor 75.63% (mIoU 40.6 to 36.1), FP8 per-channel 73.31%. No NaN or Inf on the 400 blocks with TensorRT 11.4 on B200 and B300. With TensorRT 11.1, the same FP8 graphs give non-finite logits on B200 and B300 (fp32 and fp16 engines are fine); the cause was not isolated.
Hardware, Environment, and Revisions
Repository: this commit on top of upstream/main at 061ecdc9. The study ran on a17640d2; families/pointnet is unchanged between the two.
Checkpoint: yanx27/Pointnet_Pointnet2_pytorchlog/sem_seg/pointnet_sem_seg/checkpoints/best_model.pth at eb64fe0b4c24055559cea26299cb485dcb43d8dd (manifest revision).
Data: the official S3DIS indoor3d_sem_seg_hdf5_data blocks: 419 blocks of Areas 1 to 4 and 6 for calibration (every 40th block), 400 blocks of Area 5 held out (every 10th block).
Study: B200 and B300, one GPU per job, TensorRT 11.4.0.106 (target) and 11.1.0.106. Reference: the family's PyTorch PointNet in fp32.
Not Run / Remaining Gaps
No code was run for this change; the study cannot be rerun from this repository because the FP8 code was not merged.
Not measured: a narrower recipe (T-Nets or head kept fp16), percentile or entropy calibration, batched engines (the family builds batch 1 only), H100, the native runtime with an FP8 bundle.
No problem on main was found during the study (the TensorRT 11.1 FP8 non-finite outputs come from the prototype graph, which is not on main).
Contributor Self-Review
I have completed a self-review of this change.
Notes For Future Readers
Suggested review order: "Summary and decision", the speed table, "When to revisit".
Revisit FP8 if the family adds batched inference, so that the GEMMs, not kernel launches, set the latency.
Risk level
Low
Medium
High
Risk rationale: documentation only; one README added, no code, build, bundle or test change.
Add a README for the PointNet family with the FP8 study: the engine is
launch bound at batch 1, so FP8 stays at the fp16 level (0.97x to 1.04x
on B200 and B300 with TensorRT 11.4), and point accuracy on the
held-out S3DIS area drops by 7.5 to 9.9 points. Record the recipe, the
method, the numbers, the inactive feature T-Net of the checkpoint, NVFP4
and when to revisit. No code change.
Signed-off-by: Zhenshan Xie <zhenshanx@nvidia.com>
Adds families/pointnet/README.md to document the PointNet build and an FP8 quantization study. The README records the measured recipe, latency, plan size, and quality results. It explains why FP8 is not shipped: it did not improve batch-1 latency over FP16 and reduced point accuracy. It also documents TensorRT 11.1 non-finite outputs, NVFP4 limitations, untested options, and conditions for revisiting quantization.
The change adds documentation only. The README states that the FP8 study was not rerun for this change.
Affected consumers: Readers of the PointNet family documentation. No runtime or build consumers are changed.
Unresolved blast-radius question: The study results were not rerun for this documentation change, so their current reproducibility is not established here.
Outcome: HUMAN REVIEW REQUIRED — Review the study evidence if confirmation of the documented measurements is required. This outcome does not assert a violation.
The PointNet README now describes the semantic-segmentation checkpoint, TensorRT engine configuration, and supported precision options. It also records FP8 study methods and results, TensorRT-version-specific output behavior, and the decision not to ship an FP8 build.
Changes: PointNet documentation
Layer / File(s)
Summary
Document the PointNet build and FP8 study families/pointnet/README.md
The README describes the checkpoint, engine input shape and limits, and supported precisions. It records FP8 study results and methods, notes non-finite outputs with TensorRT 11.1, and states that FP8 is not shipped.
This is a documentation-only change. The README leaves out the export and configuration step needed to build from the published checkpoint, so a reader may fail to reproduce the build. Adding that step is a small fix.
Architecture risk: Low · up to 437ff
The change affects 1 system.
Changed systems:families
Architecture concerns
No architecture-level concerns identified.
Review details
Systems and components
observed — families (service) was modified; 1 changed file maps to changed impact.
Before / after behavior
observed — Modified behavior in families/pointnet/README.md: The README’s previous contents were replaced with documentation of the PointNet family and an FP8 study that is not shipped. It states that the family builds one TensorRT engine from the yanx27 S3DIS checkpoint for points_to_semantic_segmentation, with [1, 9, N] input, up to 4096 points, batch 1, and fp32 or fp16; it has no quantized build. The study records an FP8 Q/DQ recipe and measurements, reports that TensorRT 11.1 FP8 engines produce non-finite outputs while TensorRT 11.4 outputs are finite, and documents latency, size, and held-out accuracy results. The README’s decision is not to ship FP8; it also describes the inactive feature T-Net layers, untried approaches, and revisit conditions.
Pre-merge checks: 8 · 1
Failed checks: 1 inconclusive
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Status
Explanation
Resolution
Benchmark Validation Integrity
The new report compares FP16 and FP8 latency and quality. families/pointnet/README.md:68-77 states that variants use batch 1, the same held-out blocks, and interleaved timing rounds. The study code …
Provide the study harness or equivalent evidence showing the timing and validation boundaries and aggregation for each compared variant.
Passed checks: 8 passed
Check name
Status
Explanation
Title check
The title clearly states that the change documents why PointNet does not ship FP8.
Description check
The description covers the motivation, exit criteria, implementation, change category, validation results, environment, remaining gaps, self-review, and risk. It does not link an originating issue or …
Docstring Coverage
No eligible functions found in the changed files. Skipping docstring coverage check. Docstring coverage is scoped to functions touched by this diff with cyclomatic complexity of at least 2. Documentat…
Linked Issues check
Check skipped because no linked issues were found for this pull request.
Out of Scope Changes check
Check skipped because no linked issues were found for this pull request.
Family Ownership Boundary
The PR adds only families/pointnet/README.md. The documentation introduces no cross-family dependency or central registry change.
Shared Semantic Neutrality
The PR adds only families/pointnet/README.md. It does not change shared code, so the check does not apply.
Shared Change Blast Radius
The pull request only adds families/pointnet/README.md. It documents a PointNet-specific study and does not change a shared surface.
Full details: Description check
Explanation
The description covers the motivation, exit criteria, implementation, change category, validation results, environment, remaining gaps, self-review, and risk. It does not link an originating issue or discussion, but the rest is complete and specific.
Full details: Docstring Coverage
Explanation
No eligible functions found in the changed files. Skipping docstring coverage check. Docstring coverage is scoped to functions touched by this diff with cyclomatic complexity of at least 2. Documentation-only edits and deletions within surviving functions are included; unchanged diff context and fully deleted functions are excluded. Analyzed 0 functions across 0 files. (1 skipped: 1 unsupported.)
Full details: Benchmark Validation Integrity
Explanation
The new report compares FP16 and FP8 latency and quality. families/pointnet/README.md:68-77 states that variants use batch 1, the same held-out blocks, and interleaved timing rounds. The study code is not in the repository, so the timing boundaries, synchronization, transfers, and metric aggregation cannot be verified across the compared paths.
Resolution
Provide the study harness or equivalent evidence showing the timing and validation boundaries and aggregation for each compared variant.
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Review comments at @families/pointnet/README.md:
- Around line 5-6: Update the PointNet documentation around
points_to_semantic_segmentation to explain that the family builder requires
pointnet.onnx and config.json in the model directory and does not export the
checkpoint; describe the separate preparation step to produce these files, and
state that config.json must set num_points to 4096 for the documented point
limit.
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Major · Functional Correctness · Quick win
Document the required build inputs.
The family builder does not export the checkpoint. It requires pointnet.onnx and config.json in the model directory; the E2E test performs the export separately. A user who passes the published checkpoint directly cannot build the bundle. (raw.githubusercontent.com)
Document the preparation step and required files. Also state that config.json must set num_points to 4096 for the documented point limit.
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only still-valid issues, skip the rest with a brief reason, keep changes
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Review comment at @families/pointnet/README.md around lines 5 - 6:
Update the PointNet documentation around points_to_semantic_segmentation to
explain that the family builder requires pointnet.onnx and config.json in the
model directory and does not export the checkpoint; describe the separate
preparation step to produce these files, and state that config.json must set
num_points to 4096 for the documented point limit.
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Background
families/pointnetbuilds the yanx27 PointNet S3DIS semantic-segmentation checkpoint as one engine (batch 1, up to 4096 points, fp16 in the manifest) and has no quantized build. No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of this model exists, so FP8 self-quantization of the convolutions and fully connected layers (static per-tensor activation scales from max calibration, fp16 Dequantize) was built and measured on TensorRT 11.4 and 11.1. FP8 does not pay for this family: the engine is launch bound (40 layers of a few microseconds each), so latency stays at the fp16 level (0.97x to 1.04x at batch 1), and point accuracy on the held-out S3DIS area drops from 83.18% to 75.63%. The only gain is plan size (7.4 to about 5 MiB). This change adds a README for the family that records the study, like the timm_efficientnet (#2102) and yolov10 (#2093) studies, so that it does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code is not part of this change. NVFP4 was not tried: TensorRT does not support NVFP4 on convolutions.Exit Criteria
Implementation
families/pointnet/README.md(new): a short family description and the section "FP8 quantization study (not shipped)": summary and decision, recipe, method, results (speed and size, TensorRT 11.1 check, quality), notes on the checkpoint, NVFP4, what was not tried, when to revisit.Recipe that was measured (code kept out of the repository):
Why no gain: the convolutions are small GEMMs and the engine time is set by about 40 kernel launches, so fp16 is only 0.96x to 1.07x of fp32 speed and FP8 adds nothing over fp16. The family builds batch 1 only.
Change categories
Validation
Commands and Results
Documentation only.
python3 -m tools.model_ci validatepytest tools/tests/test_architecture.py tools/tests/test_public_source_hygiene.py(CPU)git diff --checkpython3 tools/pr_metadata.py validateon this descriptionThe numbers in the README come from the local study and are not re-run by this change (4096 points, batch 1, us per engine call; x is fp16 time over FP8 per-tensor time):
At 1024 points: 1.00x (B200) and 1.03x (B300) on 11.4.
Point accuracy on 400 held-out Area 5 blocks (B200, TensorRT 11.4): PyTorch fp32 83.17%, fp16 engine 83.18%, FP8 per-tensor 75.63% (mIoU 40.6 to 36.1), FP8 per-channel 73.31%. No NaN or Inf on the 400 blocks with TensorRT 11.4 on B200 and B300. With TensorRT 11.1, the same FP8 graphs give non-finite logits on B200 and B300 (fp32 and fp16 engines are fine); the cause was not isolated.
Hardware, Environment, and Revisions
upstream/mainat061ecdc9. The study ran ona17640d2;families/pointnetis unchanged between the two.yanx27/Pointnet_Pointnet2_pytorchlog/sem_seg/pointnet_sem_seg/checkpoints/best_model.pthateb64fe0b4c24055559cea26299cb485dcb43d8dd(manifest revision).indoor3d_sem_seg_hdf5_datablocks: 419 blocks of Areas 1 to 4 and 6 for calibration (every 40th block), 400 blocks of Area 5 held out (every 10th block).Not Run / Remaining Gaps
Contributor Self-Review
Notes For Future Readers
Risk level
Risk rationale: documentation only; one README added, no code, build, bundle or test change.
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