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docs(timm_mobilenetv3): record why FP8 is not shipped - #2130
families/timm_mobilenetv3 builds timm/mobilenetv3_large_100.ra_in1k as one image classification engine (batch 1, fp16 in the manifests) and has no quantized build. No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of this model exists on the Hub, so FP8 self-quantization of the convolutions (build-time per-channel FP8 weights, static per-tensor activation scales from max calibration) was built and measured on TensorRT 11.4 and 11.1. FP8 does not pay for this family: it is slower than fp16 at batch 1 (0.89x to 0.90x) and at batch 32 and 128 (0.91x to 0.94x), and ImageNet top-1 drops from 77.07% to 76.20%. In FP8, TensorRT 11.4 splits each depthwise convolution into one convolution per group (112 to 2092 layers, build 19 s to 146 s, 21x slower), so the depthwise convolutions stay fp16. This change adds the study to the family README, like the timm_efficientnet (#2102) and yolov10 (#2093) studies, so that it does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code is not part of this change. NVFP4 was not tried: TensorRT does not support NVFP4 on convolutions.
The open builder optimization level change (#2123, level 1 to 3) also covers this family. It only touches code and manifests, not this README, so the two changes do not conflict. At level 3 the fp16 engine is 1.22x to 1.23x faster at batch 1, so the FP8 gap measured here at level 1 would only grow; the README says so.
Exit Criteria
The README records the recipe, the method, speed and plan size on B200 and B300 (TensorRT 11.4, 11.1), top-1 against PyTorch fp32, the kernel time that explains the missing speedup, the recipe variants (including FP8 depthwise convolutions), the effect of optimization level 3, NVFP4 and when to revisit.
No code, test, manifest or bundle change; builds are unchanged.
Non-goals: shipping FP8 or NVFP4 builds, an FP8 manifest or CI case.
Implementation
families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md: new section "FP8 quantization study (not shipped)": summary and decision, recipe, method, results (speed and size, quality, kernel time per group, variants), NVFP4, what was not tried, when to revisit. The existing text is unchanged.
Recipe that was measured (code kept out of the repository):
FP8 for the 30 pointwise (1x1) convolutions on a spatial map larger than 1x1; the stem, the 15 depthwise convolutions, the 16 squeeze-excite convolutions, the head convolution and the classifier stay fp16.
Weights: per-output-channel scale amax / 448 of the batch-norm-folded kernel at build time. Activations: static per-tensor scale max |input| / 448 over 500 ImageNet validation images. fp16 Dequantize.
Why no gain: the FP8 1x1 convolutions are small (16 to 960 channels) and limited by activation traffic, so they take about the same kernel time as fp16; the Quantize layers that do not fuse (after residual adds, activations and squeeze-excite products) add 17 to 18 layers. The accuracy loss is the recipe's: PyTorch fake quantization of the same recipe gives about the same top-1.
Markdown check of the README (table column counts, code fences)
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The numbers in the README come from the local study and are not re-run by this change (x is fp16 time over FP8 time):
GPU
TensorRT
Batch
fp16 ms
FP8 ms
x
plan MiB fp16 to FP8
B200
11.4
1
0.272
0.304
0.89
11.7 to 10.7
B200
11.4
128
1.510
1.614
0.94
23.5 to 26.5
B300
11.4
1
0.276
0.308
0.90
11.3 to 10.2
B300
11.4
128
1.404
1.550
0.91
23.8 to 26.6
B200
11.1
1
0.277
0.306
0.90
11.7 to 10.8
Top-1 on 1500 held-out images (B200): PyTorch fp32 77.00%, fp16 engine 77.07%, FP8 engine 76.20% (93.47% agreement with PyTorch top-1). No NaN or Inf on 2000 images and 29 stress inputs.
Hardware, Environment, and Revisions
Repository: this commit on top of upstream/main at f6550736.
Checkpoint: timm/mobilenetv3_large_100.ra_in1k at 96f46a1c52932f27492dff66c72378eb99b443a7 (manifest revision).
Data: 2000 images of clip-benchmark/wds_imagenet1k validation (every 25th image of each shard, shuffled with seed 0): 500 for calibration, 1500 held out.
Study: B200 and B300, one GPU per job, TensorRT 11.4.0.106 (target) and 11.1.0.106, torch 2.14.0 (CUDA 13), timm 1.0.28. Reference: the timm PyTorch model in fp32 with the family preprocessing.
Not Run / Remaining Gaps
No code was run for this change; the study cannot be rerun from this repository because the FP8 code was not merged.
Not measured: percentile or entropy calibration, quantization-aware training, FP8 at builder optimization level 3, other MobileNetV3 sizes, H100, the native runtime with an FP8 bundle.
No problem on main was found during the study.
Contributor Self-Review
I have completed a self-review of this change.
Notes For Future Readers
Suggested review order: "Summary and decision", the kernel time table, "When to revisit".
Revisit FP8 when a TensorRT release has FP8 1x1 convolution kernels faster than fp16 for small channel counts, or an FP8 depthwise convolution that stays one layer.
Risk level
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Risk rationale: documentation only; one README section added, no code, build, bundle or test change.
Add a section to the timm_mobilenetv3 README with the FP8
self-quantization study of mobilenetv3_large_100 on TensorRT 11.4 (B200,
B300) and 11.1: recipe (per-channel FP8 weights on the 30 pointwise
convolutions, static per-tensor activation scales, depthwise and
squeeze-excite convolutions kept fp16), measurement method, speed, plan
size, ImageNet top-1 against PyTorch fp32 and the recipe variants. FP8
is slower than fp16 at batch 1 (0.89x to 0.90x) and at batch 32 and 128
(0.91x to 0.94x), and top-1 drops from 77.07% to 76.20%: the small FP8
1x1 convolutions are not faster than fp16 and the unfused Quantize
layers add time. In FP8, TensorRT 11.4 splits each depthwise convolution
into one convolution per group (112 to 2092 layers, build 19 s to 146 s,
21x slower), so depthwise stays fp16. Builder optimization level 3 makes
the fp16 engine 1.22x to 1.23x faster, which only widens the gap. FP8 is
not shipped. NVFP4 was not tried (no NVFP4 convolution in TensorRT).
Documentation only; no code change.
Signed-off-by: Zhenshan Xie <zhenshanx@nvidia.com>
Adds an “FP8 quantization study (not shipped)” section to families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md. The section records the FP8 recipe, methodology, performance, accuracy, plan sizes, and alternatives for timm/mobilenetv3_large_100.ra_in1k.
The documented study reports that FP8 was slower than FP16 across tested batch sizes and GPUs, and reduced ImageNet top-1 accuracy by about 0.9 points. It also describes TensorRT’s depthwise-convolution layer expansion and build-time increase. The decision is not to ship FP8. NVFP4, optimization level 3 for FP8, alternate calibration methods, other MobileNetV3 sizes, and H100 remain untested.
This change is documentation only. It adds no FP8 or NVFP4 implementation, build, test, manifest, or bundle. The study measurements were not rerun for this change, and the README says they cannot be reproduced from this repository because the FP8 code was not merged.
Architecture impact
Family-owned files:families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md is the only changed file.
Shared surfaces: No shared code or public API changed.
Dependency directions: No code dependency direction changed. The README references the EfficientNet family’s study documentation; it does not add an implementation dependency.
Affected consumers: Readers of the MobileNetV3 documentation and anyone using the recorded study to assess or revisit FP8.
Unresolved blast-radius questions: The recorded measurements cannot be independently reproduced from this repository. The documented untested configurations also leave the study’s conclusions unestablished for those configurations.
Review outcome:HUMAN REVIEW REQUIRED — the measurement evidence cannot be verified from the repository. This does not establish a code or architecture violation.
Current-head CI, build, and test results: The supplied context reports validation and test passes, but completed-check evidence for the current head is not available.
The MobileNetV3 README documents an FP8 self-quantization study, including its recipe, measurement methods, and results. It records that FP8 was not added to the family and lists untested configurations and conditions for revisiting it.
Changes: MobileNetV3 FP8 study
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Summary
Recipe and evaluation method families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md
The README records the quantization recipe, tested hardware and software, datasets, quality checks, and timing procedure.
Results and study disposition families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md
The README reports performance and quality measurements, explains the recorded non-shipping decision, and lists untested options and conditions for revisiting FP8.
NVIDIA/TensorRT-Model-Connect#2102: Both PRs document FP8 studies that keep depthwise convolutions in FP16 after TensorRT 11.4 splits FP8 depthwise convolutions into per-group convolutions.
Merge Risk: Low · up to 853c5
The study may mislead future quantization decisions about accuracy and optimization-level performance. These documentation claims should be corrected.
Architecture risk: Low · up to 853c5
The change affects 1 system.
Changed systems:families
Architecture concerns
No architecture-level concerns identified.
Review details
Systems and components
observed — families (service) was modified; 1 changed file maps to changed impact.
Before / after behavior
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md: The README documents the FP8 study’s non-shipping decision and summarizes measured latency, plan size, and accuracy. It attributes the documented results to pointwise-convolution performance, unfused quantization layers, depthwise-convolution expansion in TensorRT, quantization quality loss, and builder optimization level; FP8 at level 3 is noted as unmeasured.
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md: The README records the measured FP8 recipe: 30 of 63 convolutions are quantized, with the remaining convolution types kept in fp16; it specifies weight and activation scales, the outlier rule, and dequantization type. It also documents the GPUs, TensorRT versions, calibration and held-out data, quality and non-finite checks, and timing procedure.
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md: The README adds measured latency, plan-size, quality, kernel-time, and plan-layer tables for the tested engines and variants. It also reports results for changing the stem, weight scaling, batch-normalization handling, and depthwise convolutions, including separate-job depthwise results.
observed — Modified behavior in families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md: The README notes that NVFP4 was not tried, lists other unmeasured configurations and methods, and documents the conditions identified for revisiting FP8, including faster small-channel kernels, quantization fusion, and depthwise kernels that retain one layer per convolution.
Pre-merge checks: 9
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Title check
The title clearly and concisely identifies the README change and its main point: documenting why FP8 is not shipped.
Description check
The description covers the required sections, including motivation, exit criteria, implementation, change category, validation, environment, remaining gaps, self-review, and risk. It also states that …
Docstring Coverage
No eligible functions found in the changed files. Skipping docstring coverage check. Docstring coverage is scoped to functions touched by this diff with cyclomatic complexity of at least 2. Documentat…
Linked Issues check
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Out of Scope Changes check
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Family Ownership Boundary
The PR changes only families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md. Lines 75–76 reference the EfficientNet study for readers; they do not introduce a dependency on another family's implementation or validation…
Shared Semantic Neutrality
The PR changes only families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md. It adds a family-specific study and changes no shared code.
Benchmark Validation Integrity
The PR adds a study to the README but does not change benchmark, validation, or reporting behavior. The study describes both FP16 and FP8 latency as milliseconds per engine call, using CUDA graph repl…
Shared Change Blast Radius
The PR only adds a MobileNetV3 study to families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md. The diff does not change a shared surface.
Full details: Description check
Explanation
The description covers the required sections, including motivation, exit criteria, implementation, change category, validation, environment, remaining gaps, self-review, and risk. It also states that the change is documentation only and that the reported study measurements were not rerun.
Full details: Docstring Coverage
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No eligible functions found in the changed files. Skipping docstring coverage check. Docstring coverage is scoped to functions touched by this diff with cyclomatic complexity of at least 2. Documentation-only edits and deletions within surviving functions are included; unchanged diff context and fully deleted functions are excluded. Analyzed 0 functions across 0 files. (1 skipped: 1 unsupported.)
Full details: Family Ownership Boundary
Explanation
The PR changes only families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md. Lines 75–76 reference the EfficientNet study for readers; they do not introduce a dependency on another family's implementation or validation artifacts.
Full details: Benchmark Validation Integrity
Explanation
The PR adds a study to the README but does not change benchmark, validation, or reporting behavior. The study describes both FP16 and FP8 latency as milliseconds per engine call, using CUDA graph replay and interleaved rounds. The study code was not merged, so this check does not verify its implementation.
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Review comments at @families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md:
- Around line 100-102: Update the accuracy statement in the README to attribute
the reported loss to the full quantization recipe, not specifically to
per-tensor activations or TensorRT. Preserve the reported comparison while
clarifying that the evidence does not isolate activation-only loss.
- Line 106: Remove the claim that the FP8 gap would grow from the level change
in the README text; retain the statement that FP8 at level 3 was not measured.
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Minor · Functional Correctness · Quick win
Attribute the accuracy loss to the full recipe.
The comparison quantizes both weights and activations. The fake-quantization result uses the same recipe, so it does not isolate the loss from per-tensor activations. Report the loss as a recipe result unless an activation-only comparison is available.
As per coding guidelines, “the implementation and its evidence” must “have the meaning claimed.”
Prompt for AI Agents
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Review comment at @families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md around lines 100 - 102:
Update the accuracy statement in the README to attribute the reported loss to
the full quantization recipe, not specifically to per-tensor activations or
TensorRT. Preserve the reported comparison while clarifying that the evidence
does not isolate activation-only loss.
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review. Visit https://docs.coderabbit.ai/cli?utm_source=ghpr
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sed -n '85,112p' families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md
git diff f6550736a3da1a2733ea1c7f3d617379cdd8d61e 853c562e88dd081f6caeacebfaea7fa699788477 -- families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md
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Remove the level-3 FP8 gap prediction.
The fp16 result alone does not establish how the gap changes at level 3.
Suggested fix
--- "a/families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md"+++ "b/families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md"@@ -103,8 +103,7 @@
- TensorRT builder optimization level: the numbers here use the family's
current level 1. At level 3 the fp16 engine is faster (batch 1: 0.219 ms on
B200 and 0.226 ms on B300, 1.23x and 1.22x over level 1, measured for the
- level change in #2123), so the FP8 gap would only grow. FP8 at level 3 was not- measured.+ level change in #2123). FP8 at level 3 was not measured.
### Recipe that was measured
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Review comment at @families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md at line 106:
Remove the claim that the FP8 gap would grow from the level change in the README
text; retain the statement that FP8 at level 3 was not measured.
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Background
families/timm_mobilenetv3buildstimm/mobilenetv3_large_100.ra_in1kas one image classification engine (batch 1, fp16 in the manifests) and has no quantized build. No FP8 or NVFP4 checkpoint of this model exists on the Hub, so FP8 self-quantization of the convolutions (build-time per-channel FP8 weights, static per-tensor activation scales from max calibration) was built and measured on TensorRT 11.4 and 11.1. FP8 does not pay for this family: it is slower than fp16 at batch 1 (0.89x to 0.90x) and at batch 32 and 128 (0.91x to 0.94x), and ImageNet top-1 drops from 77.07% to 76.20%. In FP8, TensorRT 11.4 splits each depthwise convolution into one convolution per group (112 to 2092 layers, build 19 s to 146 s, 21x slower), so the depthwise convolutions stay fp16. This change adds the study to the family README, like the timm_efficientnet (#2102) and yolov10 (#2093) studies, so that it does not have to be repeated. The FP8 code is not part of this change. NVFP4 was not tried: TensorRT does not support NVFP4 on convolutions.The open builder optimization level change (#2123, level 1 to 3) also covers this family. It only touches code and manifests, not this README, so the two changes do not conflict. At level 3 the fp16 engine is 1.22x to 1.23x faster at batch 1, so the FP8 gap measured here at level 1 would only grow; the README says so.
Exit Criteria
Implementation
families/timm_mobilenetv3/README.md: new section "FP8 quantization study (not shipped)": summary and decision, recipe, method, results (speed and size, quality, kernel time per group, variants), NVFP4, what was not tried, when to revisit. The existing text is unchanged.Recipe that was measured (code kept out of the repository):
Why no gain: the FP8 1x1 convolutions are small (16 to 960 channels) and limited by activation traffic, so they take about the same kernel time as fp16; the Quantize layers that do not fuse (after residual adds, activations and squeeze-excite products) add 17 to 18 layers. The accuracy loss is the recipe's: PyTorch fake quantization of the same recipe gives about the same top-1.
Change categories
Validation
Commands and Results
Documentation only.
python3 -m tools.model_ci validatepytest tools/tests/test_architecture.py tools/tests/test_public_source_hygiene.py(CPU)git diff --checkpython3 tools/pr_metadata.py validateon this descriptionThe numbers in the README come from the local study and are not re-run by this change (x is fp16 time over FP8 time):
Top-1 on 1500 held-out images (B200): PyTorch fp32 77.00%, fp16 engine 77.07%, FP8 engine 76.20% (93.47% agreement with PyTorch top-1). No NaN or Inf on 2000 images and 29 stress inputs.
Hardware, Environment, and Revisions
upstream/mainatf6550736.timm/mobilenetv3_large_100.ra_in1kat96f46a1c52932f27492dff66c72378eb99b443a7(manifest revision).clip-benchmark/wds_imagenet1kvalidation (every 25th image of each shard, shuffled with seed 0): 500 for calibration, 1500 held out.Not Run / Remaining Gaps
Contributor Self-Review
Notes For Future Readers
Risk level
Risk rationale: documentation only; one README section added, no code, build, bundle or test change.
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